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  • SmithGuy

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    All the officers in my small town are friends and co-workers (town employees). As for elsewhere, I've never been pulled over or had a run-in with any LEO's so I can't really say anything positive or negative and I hope it stays that way. ;)
     

    grogie

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    I haven't had a lot of interaction with LEOs, but the few I've met for personal reasons are nice guys, and if there is something in common, they're great to talk to. I ran into a guy at the Eagle Creek range one time and we had a great conversation, and he even gave me a Glock magazine that he no longer used.

    I can imagine it's a **** of a job and requires an all the time tough guy attitude in order to survive it mentally and physically, but at the same time I think you'd also have to be able to have sympathy for what you see, such as children with lousy parents, and also be an optimist. They deal with a lot of societies losers, along with people that just need to be locked up or frankly shot, and I'm sure that would wear one down.

    I'm glad that there are guys willing to do the job. And I do think that they have to kept to a higher standard, as with anyone with authority, as not to abuse their power. Sometimes I see little things, such as recently, an IPD officer driving on 465 and changing lanes quickly around other cars and doesn't use his blinker like some young punk would do. Wouldn't that kind of driving get me pulled over? Sure, no one is perfect, but it's his job, as with my job I have to be as perfect as possible too while I'm on the clock.
     

    churchmouse

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    PGRChaplain

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    To get back to the OP, Thanks for wearing your Badge! As a Ride Captain for the IPGR I get a lot of interaction with LEO's. Traffic control, Escorts and crowd control are a few of the details they undertake on our Missions.
    We had a Welcome Home two weeks ago for a Vietnam Vet who had visited in country for some healing. He had lost both legs over there. Those agencies involved were Indiana State Police and ISP MC Div., Whitley County Sheriff Dept., Columbia City Police, Allen County Sheriff Dept. and MC Div., Ft Wayne P.D. And Ft Wayne Allen Co Airport Authority Police. Over 20 Police vehicles to Escort him from Baer Field to a reception in Columbia City. Thanks to each and every one of them!
    To the OP, God Bless You and keep You Safe out there! :patriot:
     

    SmithGuy

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    Great way to build your post Count! We already have enough "English Teachers" here!
    Almost forgot, :welcome: 2 :ingo:

    Thank you for the nice welcome! :rockwoot:

    For the record, the only reason I pointed out the grammar mistake was to make a point about throwing stones in glass houses. Happygunner was pointing out someone else's grammar mistake, so I could not resist pointing out the grammar mistake that hapygunner made.

    If you have had 100% bad experiences with law enforcement, the overwhelming probability is that you are the problem.

    I could not agree more. I am not in law enforcement, but if I were an officer I would strive to keep my response at the same level as the person I am interacting with. I would be nice and respectful as long as you are being nice and respectful. If you are rolling your eyes, raising your voice, insulting my character, or accusing me of not being fair, then I will probably start losing my patience and I would not give you the break I was just getting ready to give you. I could never be a successful law enforcement officer because I would probably let all the nice people go with a warning. :)
     

    churchmouse

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    Thank you for the nice welcome! :rockwoot:

    For the record, the only reason I pointed out the grammar mistake was to make a point about throwing stones in glass houses. Happygunner was pointing out someone else's grammar mistake, so I could not resist pointing out the grammar mistake that hapygunner made.



    I could not agree more. I am not in law enforcement, but if I were an officer I would strive to keep my response at the same level as the person I am interacting with. I would be nice and respectful as long as you are being nice and respectful. If you are rolling your eyes, raising your voice, insulting my character, or accusing me of not being fair, then I will probably start losing my patience and I would not give you the break I was just getting ready to give you. I could never be a successful law enforcement officer because I would probably let all the nice people go with a warning. :)

    And I on the other hand would repeatedly Taze all off those who so righteously deserve it.
     

    JasonB

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    From reading past posts...Im getting alot of mixed reviews in regards to cops. As a LEO of 8 years, Im curious on what you think of your cops, what they do good, and what they could improve upon. How did they treat you and where you happy or unhappy with the end result of your contact.

    In the Marines...its never just Sgt. So & So, it was always, "US Marine throws puppy off bridge" So I get that it only takes one experience to ruin it for the rest of them...No question, off duty, some of my personal experiences havnt been that great at times...

    Was curious on some of INGOs experiences and what youd like to see improved upon...

    For the record...in 1200 traffic stops, Ive only written 3 citations...so take it easy on me. I think tickets do much more harm to families then good...just wanted to get that out there :)

    Wouldn't have your job for anything in the world... :patriot: Thanks for your dedication and service.

    Only wish the Local LEOs in our small community would realize our Taxes pay their salary... They have a perfectly good Interstate to meet ticket quotas on so picking on the locals for 34 mph in 30 mph zone on SR750 gets old after first couple stops... A

    t least he found it amusing when my reply to speeding was that the poor Honda I was driving wouldn't make it up the hill in 5th gear @ 30 mph and with less than 2 blocks to turn into our neighborhood I was too lazy to downshift.
     

    searpinski

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    Hmmm, if a person has a bad interaction with 100% of the law enforcement they meet, yet others seem to have good interactions with law enforcement that they meet, what is the common factor? Could it be you? Me thinks it could.

    I have a friend that thinks his neighbors are a**h**es. He has thought that about every neighbor he has had in the last 5 places he has lived. In his mind, he just has bad luck with neighbors. Yet, at a picnic at his house, if someone suggests that the music might be a bit loud, he quickly responds that 'The neighbors are all a bunch of pricks, so screw them'. He really does think that he just has bad luck with the neighbors.

    If you have had 100% bad experiences with law enforcement, the overwhelming probability is that you are the problem.

    BTW, the friend with the neighbor issue really is a decent guy. The problem is that he demands respect before he will offer it. That rarely works out well.

    Thank you for taking the time to read the post.
     

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    I have found that plenty of such people do not have a problem with authority per se but rather the usurpation of authority.

    Well I would say just about everyone would agree to be against the usurpation of authority........

    The distinction I'm making is the people that do not like the idea of anyone telling them what to do so they look for problems unnecessarily and then wonder why they are always in trouble. They think the rules don't apply to them so it's easier to point the finger at the authority role (police in this case). It's not very indifferent than what I run into daily in the job I do as a manager. These kind of people will think I'm abusing my authority and being a general jerk when all I'm doing is my job in enforcing the company policies.

    I've seen so many of these silly threads about dealing with the police.

    BOTTOM LINE: Best way to avoid problems with police is to not do things that put you in a situation where you have to deal with them, and if you do have to interact with them, treat them with the respect they deserve and they will likely treat you the same way.

    Just my :twocents:
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Well I would say just about everyone would agree to be against the usurpation of authority........

    The distinction I'm making is the people that do not like the idea of anyone telling them what to do so they look for problems unnecessarily and then wonder why they are always in trouble. They think the rules don't apply to them so it's easier to point the finger at the authority role (police in this case). It's not very indifferent than what I run into daily in the job I do as a manager. These kind of people will think I'm abusing my authority and being a general jerk when all I'm doing is my job in enforcing the company policies.

    I've seen so many of these silly threads about dealing with the police.

    BOTTOM LINE: Best way to avoid problems with police is to not do things that put you in a situation where you have to deal with them, and if you do have to interact with them, treat them with the respect they deserve and they will likely treat you the same way.

    Just my :twocents:

    I will grant you that we live among an abundance of people who need to grow up, but I have also noticed that those in the field of law enforcement are often in the business of usurpation either of their own initiative or at the behest of legislature.

    I have a difficult time with the notion that the solution to this is simply to roll over and hope for merciful treatment.
     

    Movealongmovealong

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    My experience with the Bloomington PD has generally been positive. I can't complain much at all as they are tremendously better than the PD in the large city I used to live in (which shall remain unnamed, but you are all aware of it's problems).

    I think that something ALL police officers could benefit from is meditation. It is well known that continuous emotional stress wears heavily on the brain, and meditation (or biofeedback, if you prefer a more scientific term) if one of the absolute best ways of mitigating and learning to control stress better. Even the military has started using it for some specific purposes (PTSD, reacclimation of some soldiers).

    A more focused, calm and aware police officer gets better outcomes for everyone, IMO.
     

    ol' Huff

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    I think the Greene County Sherrif's dept is horribly undermanned and underpaid. I have had nothing but positive experiences with them.

    This is the case exactly. They are good folk in a bad situation in a poor county. They receive almost no training in their long guns and have no budget for it. They have doctrinal issues that prevent them from getting good training at times, and their staffing issues prevent many of them from having enough time off to get good training on their own. Because of the drug problem in the poorer parts of the county they have too often been asked to employ firearms with what little training they receive. If I had it my way the next time they have to sort out a Meth head they would have better long gun training.
     

    codydugger

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    I have never had a bad experience with the police officers in avon, but my only complaint about them is the way they speed down dan jones rd. when they come by it is nothing but a blur of red and blue. I personally thought it was their job to "protect and serve", not put every other persons life at risk that is on the road.
     

    searpinski

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    Well I would say just about everyone would agree to be against the usurpation of authority........

    The distinction I'm making is the people that do not like the idea of anyone telling them what to do so they look for problems unnecessarily and then wonder why they are always in trouble. They think the rules don't apply to them so it's easier to point the finger at the authority role (police in this case). It's not very indifferent than what I run into daily in the job I do as a manager. These kind of people will think I'm abusing my authority and being a general jerk when all I'm doing is my job in enforcing the company policies.

    I've seen so many of these silly threads about dealing with the police.

    BOTTOM LINE: Best way to avoid problems with police is to not do things that put you in a situation where you have to deal with them, and if you do have to interact with them, treat them with the respect they deserve and they will likely treat you the same way.

    Just my :twocents:

    Very valid point. However, sometimes it's not under a person's control to avoid those situations. My first and most negative experience with the police was because of something a family member did. It changed forever how I view law enforcement.
     
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