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I read earlier that his polling among black voters has improved dramatically since his appearance in Milwaukee.
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The Trump/Republican Primary/General Election Megathread
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I read earlier that his polling among black voters has improved dramatically since his appearance in Milwaukee.
....an "assumed" billionaire. We honestly don't know.
Top 10 Reasons To Doubt Trump Is Even A Billionaire
Basically, this NY Times article describes Trump as a relatively wealthy guy with a credit card. Why Trump won't self fund his campaign: He can't. He's not liquid
In Maze of Trump’s Empire, Unknown Ties and $650 Million in Debt
In Maze of Trump’s Empire, Unknown Ties and $650 Million in Debt
Why does this matter?
Thank you for your erudite, informative and agenda-free post.
You may rest assured that we will study it long enough to give it the careful consideration it deserves!
The sales pitch is starting to fall apart.
Trump to introduce reforms to legalize some undocumented immigrants - Univision
Gideon Resnick said:
Trump to introduce reforms to legalize some undocumented immigrants - Univision
think you need to look at the bigger picture. It's not falling apart.
This is a case of consolidating the base that Trump perceived as necessary to victory during the primary then running to the center on an epic scale never before seen in American politics to win the general!!!
This is a case of consolidating the base that Trump perceived as necessary to victory during the primary then running to the center on an epic scale never before seen in American politics to win the general!!!
So what is the truth? What does Trump actually support. The people who supported Trump most fiercely said that his immigration policy was his main draw. So, is he telling the truth about that, and lying about moving to the center? Or, did he lie about his immigration policy that drew all the Trump supporters, and now he's showing the real Trump? That's the problem with supporting a liar. You don't know when they're telling YOU the truth.
I look at Trump as ignorant.
If an ignorant person makes a claim or stakes out a position and later changes their position given further information, I don't call them a liar, do you?
Actually I try not to call anyone a liar....
Most people talk in extremes and support extremes in sound bite form.
Few really are.
At least that's my experience.
If an ignorant person makes a claim or stakes out a position and later changes their position given further information, I don't call them a liar, do you?
Actually I try not to call anyone a liar....
Most people talk in extremes and support extremes in sound bite form.
Few really are.
At least that's my experience.
It would appear that you didn't hear the whole quote.
He said that after the first 4 years of his presidency he would get 95% of the black vote during his second election.
By the way.
Who among you, when you are infuriated at the things that you see happening don't say things like, "I'd like to blow his head off" or "I'd like to take a ball bat to him" or "I think we ought to build a wall to keep them out" or even "I think we ought to send them back to where they came from" even though you know that you cannot actually do it, but you'd like to do if you could.
Well, I think that is what has driven Trump to say some of the things he has said.
He is voicing the things that many people are thinking.
He hasn't gotten to where he is by being stupid or hiring stupid people.
Many people see the stupidity of electing another politician and expecting a different result.
They want someone who has proven they can get things done. They want someone who has proven they know how to deal with finance's.
That's why many, many people have chosen Donald Trump as their standard bearer in the GOP.
He may say stupid things at times but who of you haven't?
I think he started out on a lark but then it began to snowball and he began to think WOW! I might really be able to "Make America Great Again" Let's do it.
The alternative is "more of the same" with Hillary.
First. Lies. If someone knows the truth and tells you something different, that's a lie. I don't mind calling people liars when it's pretty obvious they know the truth and tell something different. For example, Hillary Clinton knows the truth about her email server and told America something she knew wasn't true. I have no problem at all calling her a liar.
Next, pandering: We have a two-party electoral system, so I expect politicians to pander. There is not a majority of conservatives, progressives, or moderates, so candidates typically pander to at least one group to win enough support to be elected. But Trump's pandering is astonishingly grand and obvious. It goes beyond simply spinning his views to make them more palatable for more voters.
The wall: Given what Trump has said lately about immigration, he makes it sound like the whole wall thing was more like a figure of speech. But, the whole reason many Trump supporters got on the bandwagon in the first place is because of that damn wall, and because of his immigration policies. In fact, some INGOers pretty much declared that is his signature issue. Many of you guys argued against people suggesting what Trump is advocating now. But now, in order to continue your support, you're changing your opinions to match Trump's latest rhetoric. So, I have to wonder, if Trump took the same position he's advocating now, would you have supported him from the beginning? Or did you just "evolve"?
Now about how people talk. Yeah, Trump does use colloquial language. That's one of his legitimate appeals. Politicians often use more formal language, more guarded, and it's sort of built up a perception of what we think is "presidential" language. Trump just stand up the the lectern and talks like he's sitting in your living room trying to pitch a $2000 vacuum cleaner. And in every-day informal speech, yes, we do tend to speak in extremes. Us married folks understand that very well. "You NEVER put the seat down!" "Um, yes I do. I put it down last week. Technically, that's not 'never'".
That's just not practical. And not that I wouldn't mind if someone kicked Hillary in the balls. But what do they do after all the groins have been kicked? Is there a plan for after that? And what if Trump doesn't really want to kick anyone in the groin? What if he just wants to gain personally from all this? What if he's lying to everyone? One way or the other, he seems to be lying about immigration.
For me to call someone a liar is making a judgment of a person who is created in God's image and is a sin.
To call a statement a lie is fine.
Thst is another way of saying what I was saying, I think.
I am not really included in the "you" group so I cant answer really. It was more your paragraph below thst I admire.
LA Times Poll: Trump Takes Half a Point Lead over Clinton - Breitbart
[FONT=&] Hillary Clinton [FONT=&]43.6%[/FONT] [/FONT][FONT=&] Donald Trump [FONT=&]44.2%...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&]...Based on 2,463 respondents[/FONT] [FONT=&]As of [FONT=&]Aug. 20, 2016[/FONT][/FONT]
http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/
[FONT=&] Hillary Clinton [FONT=&]43.6%[/FONT] [/FONT][FONT=&] Donald Trump [FONT=&]44.2%...[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&]...Based on 2,463 respondents[/FONT] [FONT=&]As of [FONT=&]Aug. 20, 2016[/FONT][/FONT]
http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/
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