The SB 101 (Religious Freedom Restoration) Thread

[chipbennett]

But how about making the same wedding cake for a man who is getting married for the second time around after committing adultery on his first wife with his second? Do they get the cake?

That would depend upon his knowledge of the situation, and his own conscience.

(And despite what you would say otherwise, the first amendment protects freedom of conscience, whether or not you think someone's conscience is hypocritical.)

 

[miguel]

But how about making the same wedding cake for a man who is getting married for the second time around after committing adultery on his first wife with his second? Do they get the cake?

It all depends what he puts on his RFC ("request for cake") form. If, based on his answers to the RFC profile questions, he's of a denomination that permits 2nd marriages, then I'd bake it. If his denomination doesn't, we'd have to decline his RFC. Further, if his faith required a more...dedicated...level of compliance regarding adultery, I'd call the local administrator(s) of his faith and rat his cheating ass out!


p.s. Note how this sarcastic post actually resembles many processes of the Federal government, which pinkos generally tend to embrace.

 

[terrehautian]

On another forum I am on, someone said that no business has the right to refuse service to anyone. I took the time to bait them into seeing if it is only "protected classes" or they mean everyone by asking if it means people who carry guns also. Waiting to see if anyone says that doesn't count.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

There is a mirror around here somewhere... you might want to look into it.

This bill merely sets the boundaries by which the State "stays out of it". How do you view this bill as *expanding* government?



How has GFGT attempted to tell anyone how to exercise their rights? How has GFGT advocated for anyone else's rights to be infringed? How does Indiana's RFRA allow anyone to infringe upon anyone else's rights?

AA&E, you are the one proclaiming standards below which certain people should not be entitled to all of their rights. I am on the side of even (what appears to be but I'll stand correct if wrong) religion haters such as yourself being able to exercise your rights even if they're inconsistant, hypocritical, and arbitrary.

 

[rob63]

I haven't seen anybody post this one, so I will. The whole cake thing goes both ways. Once you start using the courts to force people to do things against their will it just devolves into tit-for-tat.

This Colorado baker refused to put an anti-gay message on cakes. Now she is facing a civil rights complaint. - The Washington Post

 

[D-Ric902]

Dude, not even worried about it, lol. If somebody thinks I'm gay, let them think it... and if they have a hot wife, I'd be more than willing to do them a favor and take them out to a play or art show or something.

nobody even listening any more

 

[miguel]

I haven't seen anybody post this one, so I will. The whole cake thing goes both ways. Once you start using the courts to force people to do things against their will it just devolves into tit-for-tat.

This Colorado baker refused to put an anti-gay message on cakes. Now she is facing a civil rights complaint. - The Washington Post

This is juicy, thanks for posting.

 

[jamil]

Exactly this. FOX is in no way right-leaning. People who say such things often assert that MSNBC, CNN, and NPR are centrist.

It's been my experience that most people seem to think that they're "center". So, if they're actually fairly left of center they might think MSNBC is centrist. CNN leans right. FOX is far right wing radical nutjob crazy. Of course the same goes for people right of center who think they're fairly centrist.

Precisely... which is precisely why the government should have stayed out of it. Everyone here is all for small government until it is pushing something they agree with....

Huh? the bill limits what the government can limit and that's more government? That may be on par with help, help, the wacky republicans just made Christians a protected class! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!

But that's the point, would the swingers party be told to take a flying leap? or still be served? If you are condemning someone based upon religious convictions you should stand by ALL those religious convictions.. not just things you personally find yucky.

Tell ya what. Why don't you just pry yourself into everyone else's lives and report back on who all we should throw stones at. K? We can draw straws on who gets to throw first.

I am not familiar with Talbot Street, but apparently you are.

Not sure if we should read anything into that or not...

Hmmm. Got yer stones ready?

But how about making the same wedding cake for a man who is getting married for the second time around after committing adultery on his first wife with his second? Do they get the cake?

You're just going to have your righteous indignation one way or another, no matter what, aren't you.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I haven't seen anybody post this one, so I will. The whole cake thing goes both ways. Once you start using the courts to force people to do things against their will it just devolves into tit-for-tat.

This Colorado baker refused to put an anti-gay message on cakes. Now she is facing a civil rights complaint. - The Washington Post

I read about this the other day. I don't like this sort of thing but if it helps highlight the stupidity of these "civil rights" laws and leads to them being repealed...maybe something good can come of it.

 

[miguel]

I read about this the other day. I don't like this sort of thing but if it helps highlight the stupidity of these "civil rights" laws and leads to them being repealed...maybe something good can come of it.

I agree. **** like this wastes everyone's time. I'd rather be in the ammo and reloading forum moaning about the lack of 22LR, but as long as the leftists keep beating the drum, I will accompany on bass.

 

[chipbennett]

It's been my experience that most people seem to think that they're "center". So, if they're actually fairly left of center they might think MSNBC is centrist. CNN leans right. FOX is far right wing radical nutjob crazy. Of course the same goes for people right of center who think they're fairly centrist.

I have no delusions of being "centrist". I'm right - far right.

Fox at least gives lip service to representing views both left and right.

 

[bwframe]

IU president jumps on the outrage of the outrage bandwagon. Wonder who he works for???

http://www.idsnews.com/article/2015/03/mcrobbie-voices-concern-about-rfra

 

[JTScribe]

IU president jumps on the outrage of the outrage bandwagon. Wonder who he works for???

Indiana Daily Student: :: McRobbie voices concern about RFRA

He's a state employee, isn't he?

 

[terrehautian]

On another forum I am on, someone said that no business has the right to refuse service to anyone. I took the time to bait them into seeing if it is only "protected classes" or they mean everyone by asking if it means people who carry guns also. Waiting to see if anyone says that doesn't count.

And I get the "this isn't the same thing" reply to my quote. Just as I expected.

 

[printcraft]

You MUST provide a product sounds like communism.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

You MUST provide a product sounds like communism.

I am entitled to your goods and services!

 

[MisterChester]

Maybe the Christians aren't the ones to worry about
Atheists And Agnostics Have Race Problem | The Daily Caller

It is a socio-economic issue than anything. Studies have shown that atheists/agnostics tend to hold higher levels of education than the religious. Does that mean they have a lower education problem? I wouldn't look too much into it. People are free to choose what they want to, who cares?

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Much ado about nothing.

Yes, but it's either that, or.............you know............do my job.

 

[JTScribe]

It is a socio-economic issue than anything. Studies have shown that atheists/agnostics tend to hold higher levels of education than the religious. Does that mean they have a lower education problem? I wouldn't look too much into it. People are free to choose what they want to, who cares?

Meh.

Do Atheists Really Have Higher IQs than Believers? | Strange Notions

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Maybe the Christians aren't the ones to worry about
Atheists And Agnostics Have Race Problem | The Daily Caller

So, the majority of atheists and agnostics are white, and that means what; that they've been throwing away all the "applications" submitted by minorities?