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    ArcadiaGP

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    Donald Trump: We're Going To Keep Common Core | RedState

    I thoutht I heard him talk about how evil it was.

    Has he ever been consistent? Why start now?

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    Also, Donald Trump was asked tonight about his language --"I will be changing very rapidly. I'm capable of changing to anything I want to change to"

    No ****, sherlock. He changed from a lifelong democrat into a "republican" the day before he declared his candidacy. Still perplexed that he has actual supporters falling for this nonsense.

    Becoming less tolerant of them and more pissed that they're letting this continue.
     
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    Donald Trump: We're Going To Keep Common Core | RedState



    Has he ever been consistent? Why start now?

    Edit:

    Also, Donald Trump was asked tonight about his language --"I will be changing very rapidly. I'm capable of changing to anything I want to change to"

    No ****, sherlock. He changed from a lifelong democrat into a "republican" the day before he declared his candidacy. Still perplexed that he has actual supporters falling for this nonsense.

    Yeah, but it was just last night!

    I listened to his victory speech and I'm pretty sure he said it has to go. WTF?
     

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    You think he'd put in worse people than hillary?

    I highly HIGHLY doubt that. And him merely being in office would assure the senate and house were dominated by republicans out of fears of socialism.

    You are right, we can afford neither in the White House.
    The R domination in congress with a socialist D president is what we've had for the past few years. All we wanna do now is fire the caving squish R's we elected to fight the king. :dunno:
     

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/44wtbl/ted_cruz_sent_me_a_check_made_out_to_himself_from/

    Another reason to not vote Cruz. He sends fake checks to supporters, asking to mail it back to his campaign where "generous donors" will match the full amount in real cash. For one, this tells me he thinks his supporters are morons. 2nd, it is just laughable to see how desperate this torpid buffoon is. 3rd, this shows how f***ed up campaign finance law is.

    Yea this is ****ed up, I just got one of these checks in the mail. He's definitely targeting evangelicals, he has the same tactics tv evangelists have been implementing successfully for years.

    I'm also curious how I ended up on his mailing list all of the sudden. I've only ever been on Ron Paul, then Rand Pauls list. Strange that soon after Rand drops out I get a fake check from Cruz...
     

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    Donald Trump: We're Going To Keep Common Core | RedState



    Has he ever been consistent? Why start now?

    Edit:

    Also, Donald Trump was asked tonight about his language --"I will be changing very rapidly. I'm capable of changing to anything I want to change to"

    No ****, sherlock. He changed from a lifelong democrat into a "republican" the day before he declared his candidacy. Still perplexed that he has actual supporters falling for this nonsense.

    Becoming less tolerant of them and more pissed that they're letting this continue.


    Your link doesn't even work properly and I can't find a single mention of that anywhere online except places citing that link and only that link. I think some further evidence is necessary before we jump to conclusions.
     

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    Trump retweets, then deletes, white nationalist account | TheHill

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    Yea this is ****ed up, I just got one of these checks in the mail. He's definitely targeting evangelicals, he has the same tactics tv evangelists have been implementing successfully for years.

    I'm also curious how I ended up on his mailing list all of the sudden. I've only ever been on Ron Paul, then Rand Pauls list. Strange that soon after Rand drops out I get a fake check from Cruz...

    Nobody else in the race is bending over this hard for the evangelical vote. The rest have basically let that voter bloc go (except maybe Rubio but evangelicals don't like him anyway) as they become more and more irrelevant as elections come and go.

    Your information was most likely pulled into a database after Rands exit and sold to the highest bidder, in this case Cruz. I signed up for a newsletter of a senator once and I eventually started getting emails from the party and other candidates in said party. Really warmed my heart and worn out my delete key.
     

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    Your link doesn't even work properly and I can't find a single mention of that anywhere online except places citing that link and only that link. I think some further evidence is necessary before we jump to conclusions.

    Nobody else in the race is bending over this hard for the evangelical vote. The rest have basically let that voter bloc go (except maybe Rubio but evangelicals don't like him anyway) as they become more and more irrelevant as elections come and go.

    Your information was most likely pulled into a database after Rands exit and sold to the highest bidder, in this case Cruz. I signed up for a newsletter of a senator once and I eventually started getting emails from the party and other candidates in said party. Really warmed my heart and worn out my delete key.

    Cruz is convinced there's a moral majority out there hiding in their living rooms. He thinks Romney lost because evangelicals stayed home. And there is some evidence that they did stay home. But Romney also attracted a lot of moderate independents. Something Cruz can't do. Moderates are damned afraid of him for all his rhetoric.

    I look at it this way. Candidates do and say things to get elected. Cruz too. He's betting on a heavy evangelical turnout. But I'm not sure he understands that in the process he's alienating another major group. Maybe he thinks getting the nomination is most important, and he can worry about attracting the more moderate voters in the general.
     

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    Maybe he thinks getting the nomination is most important, and he can worry about attracting the more moderate voters in the general.

    What successful candidate hasn't run his primaries this way? When the general comes, it will be all triangulation.
     

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    Cruz is convinced there's a moral majority out there hiding in their living rooms. He thinks Romney lost because evangelicals stayed home. And there is some evidence that they did stay home. But Romney also attracted a lot of moderate independents. Something Cruz can't do. Moderates are damned afraid of him for all his rhetoric.

    I look at it this way. Candidates do and say things to get elected. Cruz too. He's betting on a heavy evangelical turnout. But I'm not sure he understands that in the process he's alienating another major group. Maybe he thinks getting the nomination is most important, and he can worry about attracting the more moderate voters in the general.

    No major candidate wins an election without the independent/moderate vote. Even if they all came out to vote it wouldn't make that much of a difference since they are concentrated mostly in the South, which is already a republican stronghold. It just makes the democrats margin of victory a little smaller.

    We also can't forget that Hillary is still from Arkansas and in 08 absolutely crushed Obama in the primary. The Clintons are still moderately popular in the inner south and Appalachia. Back in '96 Bill won a bunch of southern states so I think that will help counter the republican evangelical vote if she gets the nod.
     

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    RCP has Trump precipitously falling in national polls since Iowa. That also marks a similar rise in Rubio's numbers. Cruz is steadily increasing.

    Now, Trump still has a near-double-digit lead over Cruz, but one inference might be that Trump is losing support to Rubio. Which makes almost no sense.

    I think the more rational explanation is that Trump-potential-voters are going undecided, and as candidates drop out, their people are going to Rubio, with a smaller percentage to Cruz. But, that includes non-establishment people like Fiorina.

    Strange days.
     

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    RCP has Trump precipitously falling in national polls since Iowa. That also marks a similar rise in Rubio's numbers. Cruz is steadily increasing.

    Now, Trump still has a near-double-digit lead over Cruz, but one inference might be that Trump is losing support to Rubio. Which makes almost no sense.

    I think the more rational explanation is that Trump-potential-voters are going undecided, and as candidates drop out, their people are going to Rubio, with a smaller percentage to Cruz. But, that includes non-establishment people like Fiorina.

    Strange days.

    That kinda flies in the face of the left painting Trump's followers with one brush. His supporters aren't all the same. They support him for many reasons. I think the most crosscutting reason is as a middle finger to the establishment. The Trump phenomenon is indeed strange. His followers are moderates and conservatives. TEA Party. Even some evangelicals. It may be that some of the more moderate followers, regardless of their desires to middle-finger the establishment, just can't pull the lever on Trump.
     

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    I agree. To me, that makes Rubio's national rise more puzzling, though. I would not have expected those kinds of voters to transfer support to Rubio.

    Except, in my cynicism, if it is about charisma. Obama has it. Trump has it. Rubio has more of it than Crux or Kasich. (More historically, Clinton had it, and Bush had more of it than Gore, but barely.)

    Frankly, if national politics has become a high school class president popularity contest, that bodes poorly for our future, regardless of the party.
     

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    I agree. To me, that makes Rubio's national rise more puzzling, though. I would not have expected those kinds of voters to transfer support to Rubio.

    Except, in my cynicism, if it is about charisma. Obama has it. Trump has it. Rubio has more of it than Crux or Kasich. (More historically, Clinton had it, and Bush had more of it than Gore, but barely.)

    Frankly, if national politics has become a high school class president popularity contest, that bodes poorly for our future, regardless of the party.

    There's a lot to this. My mother, rest her soul, often voted for which ever person she "liked" better. Not so much for which had the best policy ideas but which one she thought was nicer looking or sounded better. :n00b: There are many people commenting out there that say they will vote based on which candidate they think can win -- not which one is closest to their positions on principles. Bernie has charisma, Hillary doesn't. We may not agree with his policies but, in reality, they're much the same as Hillary's. It's just that young people, in particular, like Bernie much more than Hillary. It's definitely a popularity contest for a great many. We do not have an informed electorate.
     
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