The Open Carry Argument

[Bunnykid68]

They may detain you to determine if you are licensed to carry a handgun. If he'd been carrying a rifle or shotgun, it would be different.

Indiana's handgun carry infringement is crap compared to most states.

Don't forget IMPD has new policy that they are not to bother people OC unless they are actually doing something wrong

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/305011-impd-oc-legal-updates.html

 

[88GT]

Don't forget IMPD has new policy that they are not to bother people OC unless they are actually doing something wrong

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/305011-impd-oc-legal-updates.html

I'll believe when I see it....or rather when I don't see anymore "IMPD stopped me because I was OCing" threads. I still think the legality issue will give the LEO all the room he needs to "violate" the policy with impunity. Any officer who felt it was his moral and lawfully-obligated duty to utilize his power and authority to remind the serfs that OCing isn't a good idea will still do so.

 

[Birds Away]

I'll believe when I see it....or rather when I don't see anymore "IMPD stopped me because I was OCing" threads. I still think the legality issue will give the LEO all the room he needs to "violate" the policy with impunity. Any officer who felt it was his moral and lawfully-obligated duty to utilize his power and authority to remind the serfs that OCing isn't a good idea will still do so.

Cuz they're looking out for us.

 

[CPT Nervous]

I heard a story at work about a guy getting kicked out of our license branch for open carry. It does draw more attention from others around you, which is why I personally believe it is better to carry concealed. In the instance of a robbery, for example, the robber has no clue you have a gun; whereas, if he sees you have a gun and he already has his drawn, you have already lost the element of surprise. The robber then has 2 options: make you hand it over, or kill you and then take it. Carrying concealed allows you to be able to draw while he's distracted with a cashier or what not. Your goal then should be to protect the innocent lives at stake, which has to be a judgement call on your end. Practice gun safety at all times and make sure the criminal is facing you if you have to shoot

Don't worry guys, I -repped him.

 

[Dixiethunder24]

Unless he defines which is more important, doing what he set out for, or not being the victim of a violent crime. The rest of his essay is pointless.

If I set out to have lunch with my wife while she's at work, and I choose to open carry. I, and possibly she, are unlikely to have a good time.

*Shrug* The rest of the discussion has been had at least a dozen times since June '08

And in addition he says "To that end I carry a firearm whenever I go out as well as follow all the other standard safety practices like maintaining situational awareness, staying out of high crime areas, and avoiding confrontation."

I feel like OC'ing is more likely to bring on more confrontation's by the un-educated public than a true violent confrontation that he's probably talking about. I'd rather avoid both kinds. Just trying to educate someone on the facts often seems as you just pushing your views on them.


However there were some points in the post that I never quite thought about in that way so I found it rather interesting. But I agree that it's a comfort level and personal choice. I think for now though I'll keep CC'ing

 

[ATM]

...However there were some points in the post that I never quite thought about in that way so I found it rather interesting. But I agree that it's a comfort level and personal choice. I think for now though I'll keep CC'ing

Welcome to INGO and congrats on actually reading and considering the essay and discussion prior to commenting.

Carry on!

 

[nakinate]

I feel like OC'ing is more likely to bring on more confrontation's by the un-educated public than a true violent confrontation that he's probably talking about. I'd rather avoid both kinds. Just trying to educate someone on the facts often seems as you just pushing your views on them.


However there were some points in the post that I never quite thought about in that way so I found it rather interesting. But I agree that it's a comfort level and personal choice. I think for now though I'll keep CC'ing

How is stating a fact pushing a view? A view is more akin to an opinion. A fact is, well, a fact.

 

[protias]

How is stating a fact pushing a view? A view is more akin to an opinion. A fact is, well, a fact.

Well, fact is that OC is illegal and will get you shot first.

 

[nakinate]

Well, fact is that OC is illegal and will get you shot first.

Not to mention how immature it is to OC. And 5 year old girls will steal your gun!

 

[ATM]

How is stating a fact pushing a view? A view is more akin to an opinion. A fact is, well, a fact.

To a person without the facts, or more generally, with incorrect "facts", it certainly may seem that your position is just an opinion.

Being flat wrong has very little impact upon one's personal perception these days.

 

[danielson]

Im sorry, I missed the facts in this thread. Maybe Im just having trouble sorting them from the biased suggestions.

How bout we let everyone carry how they want to, and keep our opinions about the method we dont like, to ourselves.

Its fine to talk about the pros and cons, to help others educate themselves, and pick their method, But once you start spouting BS, your no longer being helpful to anyone.

 

[Dead Duck]

Dude -
Have you, since you've been here on INGO, read the opening post in this thread?

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

How bout we let everyone carry how they want to, and keep our opinions about the method we dont like, to ourselves.

If those haters of OC could only do that...they just can't help themselves.

 

[danielson]

Wow, amazing, imagine that. Someone posts an attempt at diplomacy, and its immidietely thrown back at him. Hmmm.. I wonder why this thread is 200 pages long...

Yes I read the first page. I actually read them all along time ago. Its not about sides, the TRUTH is, there are no sides, thats called freedom.

In the end, Its a minority of OCers who rip on CCers, and a minority vice versa.

Some of you people need to find something to do with your time.

 

[CPT Nervous]

Wow, amazing, imagine that. Someone posts an attempt at diplomacy, and its immidietely thrown back at him. Hmmm.. I wonder why this thread is 200 pages long...

Yes I read the first page. I actually read them all along time ago. Its not about sides, the TRUTH is, there are no sides, thats called freedom.

In the end, Its a minority of OCers who rip on CCers, and a minority vice versa.

Some of you people need to find something to do with your time.

I open carry with my time.

 

[Redhorse]

I'm just scared to oc because my dad has this stupid a$$ philosophy that even though he bought me my permit for my birthday, I'm no allowed to carry because it'll somehow jump out of my holster and start shooting magically.

 

[danielson]

Nobody says you have to carry at all. If you decide to, its up to you how you carry. Try it out, ITS LEGAL!! So, if you dont like it, go back to CC. Its pretty simple.
My dad and I have very different opinions on carry. But hes responsible for him, and Im responsible for me.

 

[the1kidd03]

In the end, Its a minority of OCers who rip on CCers, and a minority vice versa.

 

[ATM]

...I wonder why this thread is 200 pages long...

I dunno, maybe some people enjoy arguing?

Some of you people need to find something to do with your time.

I like to argue with my time.


How bout we let everyone argue how they want to, and keep our opinions about the argument threads we don't like, to ourselves.

 

[nakinate]

I just wanted to know how stating facts is the same as pushing your views on someone. Sorry I asked.