The Open Carry Argument

[eldirector]

There are a number of threads here that say otherwise.

Only because a great many of us don't bother creating threads after an uneventful OC day (like today).

 

[88GT]

I'll admit, I have one of those (we named him Genghis Khat for a reason; he punks my 65lb GSD daily) and there are nights I wonder if his desire to slice our throats with his claws will overcome his urge to curl up on the bed and be warm (I help him make the decision by setting the thermostat so that our room is a toasty 64* at night). I'm with you, I think I'd rather take my chances with the firearm.

 

[protias]

Only because a great many of us don't bother creating threads after an uneventful OC day (like today).

The point I was making that there are a number of times when OCers act professional, dress nice, etc and still manage to get harassed by police...

 

[eldirector]

The point I was making that there are a number of times when OCers act professional, dress nice, etc and still manage to get harassed by police...

I'm SURE it happens. I am also sure that a)if you look shady, you will likely get treated shady, b) conversely, if you look clean-cut, you will likely be treated clean-cut, c) for every story we get on INGO about a perfectly nice OC-er getting jammed up, there were thousands of other OC-ers that day that didn't get a second look.

Want to minimize your chances of getting tazed, bro? Don't look or act like you need tazed.

 

[Rehab]

So you don't think it would be okay for people, say, in a movie theater where a madman opens fire? I'm pretty sure I'd rather have a long gun than a handgun.

See I get what your saying here, but people will probably think you are the mad man. That's what's wrong with today's world.

 

[protias]

I'm SURE it happens. I am also sure that a)if you look shady, you will likely get treated shady, b) conversely, if you look clean-cut, you will likely be treated clean-cut, c) for every story we get on INGO about a perfectly nice OC-er getting jammed up, there were thousands of other OC-ers that day that didn't get a second look.

Want to minimize your chances of getting tazed, bro? Don't look or act like you need tazed.

I'm not sure how it is in IN, but here in WI, people of all walks of life OC and don't have (many) issues. There are at times some cops who think they are above the law though...

See I get what your saying here, but people will probably think you are the mad man. That's what's wrong with today's world.

And how many times have you heard/seen OC of rifles and not had issues? It is starting to be more common here in WI.

 

[Rehab]

I'm not sure how it is in IN, but here in WI, people of all walks of life OC and don't have (many) issues. There are at times some cops who think they are above the law though...



And how many times have you heard/seen OC of rifles and not had issues? It is starting to be more common here in WI.

I've never seen it once where I'm from personally.
I still think if you are to walk into a theater with an rifle on your back someone is going to call the cops.

 

[protias]

I've never seen it once where I'm from personally.
I still think if you are to walk into a theater with an rifle on your back someone is going to call the cops.

And not with a handgun? Please, stop projecting what you think people will do and start seeing what people don't do (call the cops for lawful activity).

 

[Rehab]

And not with a handgun? Please, stop projecting what you think people will do and start seeing what people don't do (call the cops for lawful activity).

Yes I see OC of a handgun. Where I'm from I've never seen a rifle Open carried. I understand it's all lawful activity. I have no problem with it, I was just stating my opinion based off where I live, and how I think people would react. Why am I not aloud to voice my opinion, but you are?

 

[protias]

Yes I see OC of a handgun. Where I'm from I've never seen a rifle Open carried. I understand it's all lawful activity. I have no problem with it, I was just stating my opinion based off where I live, and how I think people would react. Why am I not aloud to voice my opinion, but you are?

First, it is allowed, not aloud.
Second, again, go by what people do rather than what you believe.

 

[Fyjimo]

That essay is very good and something everyone who carries to think about in some situations.

 

[lonehoosier]

That essay is very good and something everyone who carries to think about in some situations.

Thanks for taking the time to read it. OC is not for everyone nether is CC. You have to make that choice for yourself and not judge others on theirs.

 

[SteveM4A1]

I think CC of long guns is for everyone. For the element of surprise, of course.

 

[actaeon277]

Thanks for taking the time to read it. OC is not for everyone nether is CC. You have to make that choice for yourself and not judge others on theirs.

 

[Ottboys3]

I think the main argument here in Indiana is sheeple reaction to open carry! As a young man I was stopped several times by LEO's due to civilian complaints about the boy and his gun. Most were understanding and quickly resolved. Generations are now being raised that guns are bad, and only bad people have guns if there not LEO's. We need to be more assertive in the war against perception than the anti2nd folks. It is about being able to defend yourself from those looking to deny you life, liberty, and property! 1911 because 911 takes to long!

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

I think the main argument here in Indiana is sheeple reaction to open carry! As a young man I was stopped several times by LEO's due to civilian complaints about the boy and his gun. Most were understanding and quickly resolved. Generations are now being raised that guns are bad, and only bad people have guns if there not LEO's. We need to be more assertive in the war against perception than the anti2nd folks. It is about being able to defend yourself from those looking to deny you life, liberty, and property! 1911 because 911 takes to long!

Agreed. How can this be accomplished by concealing?

 

[88GT]

Agreed. How can this be accomplished by concealing?

Yes, andy the same token, never engaging in conversations when someone challenges us on our position has the same effect. Yet someone asking for advice on how to engage a group of people with whom said person is around on a regular basis was told to ignore them.

 

[stephen87]

And not with a handgun? Please, stop projecting what you think people will do and start seeing what people don't do (call the cops for lawful activity).

Maybe I'm misreading your post, but people don't call the cops due to lawful activity? I would beg to differ.

Yes I see OC of a handgun. Where I'm from I've never seen a rifle Open carried. I understand it's all lawful activity. I have no problem with it, I was just stating my opinion based off where I live, and how I think people would react. Why am I not aloud to voice my opinion, but you are?

You're more than welcome to voice your opinion around here, we also voice ours and engage in healthy debate. Just be prepared to back your opinion and either stand behind it with new and innovative ideas, or open your mind and possibly change your mind depending on what you read around here.

First, it is allowed, not aloud.
Second, again, go by what people do rather than what you believe.

First, grammar. Fix it when you have no more argument.
Second, people call the police to investigate MWAG calls, whether long gun or handgun, they get called.

Agreed. How can this be accomplished by concealing?

Simple. You, uh... no, wait, you... ummm... I don't know. Care to help me out?

 

[protias]

Maybe I'm misreading your post, but people don't call the cops due to lawful activity? I would beg to differ.

Much less than unlawful activity.

You're more than welcome to voice your opinion around here, we also voice ours and engage in healthy debate. Just be prepared to back your opinion and either stand behind it with new and innovative ideas, or open your mind and possibly change your mind depending on what you read around here.

Sure, anyone can voice an opinion, but make sure to have facts in hand when you get called out on it.

First, grammar. Fix it when you have no more argument.
Second, people call the police to investigate MWAG calls, whether long gun or handgun, they get called.

No, not all the time. Most of the time people just ask me questions.

 

[88GT]

No, not all the time. Most of the time people just ask me questions.

Enough that people have decided it's worth CCing just to avoid the risk. Which makes it frequent in my book.