The OFFICIAL Trump/HRC/2016 General Election Thread...

[BugI02]

Nah...It's racism...The [STRIKE]Dixiecrats[/STRIKE] IRA just ain't ready for an Orange President......

Fixy

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Say the GOP pulls away from Trump,pizzing on the Trump voters,and looses votes to retain the House and Senate,and Trump wins the Presidency,is it still Trump's fault that they lost?

 

[Tombs]

Why should congress, a group that's primarily concerned with soundbites for their reelection, be given that level of power?

If nobody can do it then we have to sit on our hands and watch corruption consume every element of government.

Remember, most these folks aren't elected.

 

[BugI02]

You've conflated "pushing for" and "letting it take it's course"...

If he/they had just done this post convention - offering lip service and minimalist support - we would not be having this conversation

If he was unelectable, what were they so afraid of

I believe I have Teal trademarked

 

[1DOWN4UP]

RUMBLINGS: Top Paul Ryan Advisor Leaked Trump Sex Talk Tape to WaPo (Updated)

 

[JettaKnight]

Say the GOP pulls away from Trump,pizzing on the Trump voters,and looses votes to retain the House and Senate,and Trump wins the Presidency,is it still Trump's fault that they lost?

Tactical error?

 

[Tombs]

RUMBLINGS: Top Paul Ryan Advisor Leaked Trump Sex Talk Tape to WaPo (Updated)

And they have the nerve to say we're trying to tear everything down...

 

[JettaKnight]

If nobody can do it then we have to sit on our hands and watch corruption consume every element of government.

Remember, most these folks aren't elected.

But at the highest level they are installed by POTUS and then rubber stamped by Congress. These are the people that set the tone and do the hiring and firing.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

RINOs are ?blowing up? the Republican Party?Not Trump

 

[JettaKnight]

RUMBLINGS: Top Paul Ryan Advisor Leaked Trump Sex Talk Tape to WaPo (Updated)

I would hope Paul Ryan would do some housecleaning would this be true.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Unbelievable! Did a Top Paul Ryan Adviser Leak the Trump Audio to Washington Post? - Minutemen News

 

[jbombelli]

@indi

As usual, I admire your tenacity on that front.

Your post helped me realize something. Part of my issue with Trump, and his more vocal supporters, is the we-don't-need-no-water-let-the-MFer-burn attitude. By nature, I am more of a fixer. Sometimes, you have to break some stuff to get to the part that needs replacing, and you end up replacing more stuff, but the goal is to fix it. To make it right.

Too often, including here on INGO, it seems that Trump and his supporters are more interested in the tearing down than the fixing. In my experience, it is rarely ever better - in any measurable way - to destroy something and start over. It is always a combination of over budget, delayed, or ends up not really as good as it was designed or sold.

Particularly in politics, this eternal-war/burn the ***** down nihilism is irreconcilable with American values.

When a house is rotten to its foundation you can't just replace a few boards and some drywall. You tear it down. Then you build anew.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-...ing-gop-voters-shredding-trump-182137846.html Hillary releases 4 TV ads of GOP voters threading Trump.

 

[JettaKnight]

RINOs are ?blowing up? the Republican Party?Not Trump

Was there anything in that article support the title? It was nothing more than ramblings about the GOP without one single point.

 

[Tombs]

Hey guys... I don't know if you find this credible or not, I don't know what to make of it, but it seems to fit in with everything else I've been reading in the wikileaks emails so...

Pulitzer Prize Winning Journalist: Hillary Approved Sending Sarin Gas to Rebels to Frame Assad, Start Syrian War |

 

[JettaKnight]

When a house is rotten to its foundation you can't just replace a few boards and some drywall. You tear it down. Then you build anew.

I think this might go to the heart of it.

Imagine we're both inspectors - you think it's a loss and want Trump Construction to raze and rebuild, I think your estimates are overblown and wanted Kasich Konstruction to remodel (think of Norm on This Old House).


Now I'm stuck - Trump is going to bulldoze this elegant 200 year old landmark, but Hillary wants to build another four floors onto the old timber frame! Either way it's coming down...

 

[Tombs]

I think this might go to the heart of it.

Imagine we're both inspectors - you think it's a loss and want Trump Construction to raze and rebuild, I think your estimates are overblown and wanted Kasich Konstruction to remodel (think of Norm on This Old House).


Now I'm stuck - Trump is going to bulldoze this elegant 200 year old landmark, but Hillary wants to build another four floors onto the old timber frame! Either way it's coming down...

Except Trump is the only person in this election who will personally state that he seeks to defend the constitution and nominate justices who will.

So he isn't wanting to scrap the foundation at all.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3479246/posts more Wiki

 

[foszoe]

Right. It's not Paul Ryan's job to get Donald Trump elected. It's Donald Trump's job to get Donald Trump elected.

Would you say the converse of this is true? It's not Trump's job to get the down ballot candidates elected?

What is the role of the Republican party in getting it's members elected?

What is the role of each Republican party member in getting the party's nominees elected?

 

[JettaKnight]

Would you say the converse of this is true? It's not Trump's job to get the down ballot candidates elected?

What is the role of the Republican party in getting it's members elected?

What is the role of each Republican party member in getting the party's nominees elected?

The RNC's goal is be getting as much power as it can, i.e. getting it's members elected. And no position has as much power as POTUS. Ergo, Paul Ryan should be doing what he can to get Trump elected.

That said, if it becomes obvious that there is a need to hedge the bet then Ryan should let Trump go it alone.


It's all about damage control.


If Trump wins and down ticket R's lose because of this, then so be it. But, the prudent thing to do is prepare for a Hillary win.