The OFFICIAL Trump/HRC/2016 General Election Thread...

[T.Lex]

Given the revelations about the DNC, the campaign, Hillary's scandals, Trump should be able to win even being such a colossal douchebag, and making all those unforced errors.

I will only dispute this to a certain extent. First, I think it underestimates the colossalness of his douchebaggery. Americans tend to vote emotionally - all of them, libs and cons. (Just look at the emotional quality of certain positions here on INGO.)

Second, while the WikiLeaks IS being underreported IMHO, it is also a function of general mehness about what they contain. Is it really news that political appointees and officials collaborate with their party? I am not defending it. I'm just saying that Americans have always accepted a certain amount of graft in their elected officials. They just have.

Finally, the media reports what will bring eyeballs to watch commercials. The notion that the Clintons are corrupt is straight out of 1994. Those headlines have already been written. WAY more people will tune in to celebrity gossip related to the Trumps.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

G, I have to agree with Rick here in that there is a full court press by all those sources to push the election to Hillary. The worst of which is the major news networks. In decades of paying attention I've never seen anything as openly obvious. They don't even try to pretend they're neutral anymore.

Given the revelations about the DNC, the campaign, Hillary's scandals, Trump should be able to win even being such a colossal douchebag, and making all those unforced errors. If the media did its job and reported all the relevant stories, likely a significantly higher portion of the public would demand her and other Democrats' arrest. Even as bad as Trump is, he should be ahead by 10 points given that his opponent has committed crimes against the public.

That said, Trump is coming off as a whiner. A professional campaign would not stoop to whining. A professional campaign would be out there doing the things that win political campaigns rather than squabbling with his own Party and setting up excuses for the inevitable loss. So yes, the election is absolutely rigged. But they all are. It's something Republicans and conservatives have to live with. It's how it's played. Suck it up and go after it rather than just being a ***** ass ***** about it.

Maybe we're using different definitions or perspectives on "rigged".

I'm reading it as... "The election is rigged against me, votes will be stolen due to fraud, and that's why I will lose." I think you're interpreting it as "The election is rigged against me, the entire media is treating me unfairly."

I don't deny the second, to some extent. Hillary is getting a mostly free pass, while Trump remains at the top of the charts with negative coverage. Maybe that could have been alleviated by having a candidate that wasn't such an easy target... dunno, we're beyond that.

Being a reality TV person and non-politician... of course they're going to have plenty to say about him. No excuses for the lack of coverage on Clinton, though. That's just criminal.

 

[JettaKnight]

Kasich: Trump claim of 'rigged' election is 'silly' - CNNPolitics.com

Hate to say I agree with Obama's view on this yesterday. I don't deny election fraud happens... but whining about the election being "rigged" because you're going to lose is just creating excuses.

KellyAnne Conway (Trump surrogate) is on MSNBC blaming the "NeverTrump" bogeyman for Trump's loss. This is so painfully predictable... blame the insignificant small group, and also "rigged election"... because it certainly can't be the fault of a pisspoor campaign.

That is going to be what INGO is full of on Nov 9+... blaming insignificant groups and "rigged elections"... not the candidate. Not the campaign.

Maybe.

My guess is a bunch of "Dems stole the election" with shades of Al Gore v. Bush.



Then four years of, "I told you not to nominate him." I'll do my best to refrain.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

I don't think Hillary is mentally ill...Many women stay with husbands that abuse them or are serial rapists for the good of the children.....

IMHO of course...

Plus, you can't be legally compelled to testify against someone you are married to.

 

[JettaKnight]

I'm normally very hesitant to claim media bias, But all the pieces NPR's Morning Edition has done with Trump supporters have been pretty bad. I'm just waiting for an interview with a twelve year old girl and Steve Inskeep to ask, "What if I told you Trump eats kittens, will you change to sign on your locker to Hillary's?"


I have yet to hear him interview a wackadoo Hillary supporter and then slam that person with questions and doubts.



Of course, this isn't the first time Steve Inskeep has shown his liberal bias...

Tombs asked if any of us know Hillary supporters, and I think the opposite is true here. Steve probably only hangs out with Dems, so the concept of a conservative is his "evil" and he has little understanding or regard for us.

 

[bwframe]

Sounds like the hitlary talking points...... yeah, he is wrong.... also, sounds like he has something to hide.

What's wrong with politicians, of any party, not being able to lie to the American people?

They are only afraid the game will be over.
Much like those that are hoping and cheering for a Trump loss.
Back room backstabbing business as usual weasels...

Rubio is losing ground even further. He will never be a presidential contender.


In this modern day, why would anyone assume that their electronic communications could not be read by others?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

... Is "no vaccines" a Trump stance? Is the supporter misinformed, or is that true?

Trump Supporter Tells MSNBC 'No Vaccines' Is One of Most Important Reasons to Vote Trump | Mediaite

 

[printcraft]

Rubio is losing ground even further. He will never be a presidential contender.


In this modern day, why would anyone assume that their electronic communications could not be read by others?

He is part of the same corrupt system that gave us hitlary clinton.
Politicians protecting their backroom dealings that only serve themselves, not the people.
Treasonous bastards.

 

[T.Lex]

... Is "no vaccines" a Trump stance? Is the supporter misinformed, or is that true?

Trump Supporter Tells MSNBC 'No Vaccines' Is One of Most Important Reasons to Vote Trump | Mediaite

I think there was a thing during the Republican debates where he suggested vaccines were the problem. So, yeah, he's at least 1 foot in the anti-vaccine group.

Its part of his coalition.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This sounds more like a threat.

Madonna pledges oral sex for Clinton voters | TheHill

 

[printcraft]

madonna sucks

 

[bwframe]

This sounds more like a threat.

Madonna pledges oral sex for Clinton voters | TheHill

The pop queen, known for her shocking antics, made the remark Tuesday while opening for comedian Amy Schumer in New York.

Says it all right there.^^^

 

[indiucky]

And Trump supporters are the vulgar and crass ones lol......

 

[ArcadiaGP]

bold strategy, cotton. let's see if it pays off

 

[bwframe]

Trump's a buffoon. No such thing as voter fraud.

Indiana State Police-Headquarters - Statewide
Wednesday October 19th, 2016 :: 12:43 p.m. EDT

Community Statement from Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter Regarding Possible Voter Fraud



[video=youtube;UXpRswM-tzc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXpRswM-tzc[/video]

 

[foszoe]

Wasn't he elected in the primaries and nominated at the convention? The problems started in between clinching the nomination in the primaries and the nomination.

So he wasn't really nominated.

"Nominated candidate" not "elected" as long as we're using specific words.

And yet... when that candidate is personally responsible for the disunity, and it was raised during the primary, does that not matter?

If I tell you that I'm not going to eat squid and yet you serve me squid, who's fault is it that there's leftover squid?

 

[printcraft]

.........If I tell you that I'm not going to eat squid and yet you serve me squid, who's fault is it that there's leftover squid?

It's squid or **** sandwich. You choose.

 

[T.Lex]

Wasn't he elected in the primaries and nominated at the convention? The problems started in between clinching the nomination in the primaries and the nomination.

So he wasn't really nominated.

He hasn't been elected either. He wasn't elected in the primaries; we voted on who should be nominated. The purpose of the convention is nominate a candidate.

It's squid or **** sandwich. You choose.

False choice. There are other options, including not eating.

 

[printcraft]

......False choice. There are other options, including not eating.

There are only two options, one of those 2 WILL be served.

[video=youtube;rqdxHwaxrNM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdxHwaxrNM[/video]

 

[T.Lex]

There are only two options, one of those 2 WILL be served.

I don't have to order.