The Nuclear Iran Situation

[IndyDave1776]

John Kerry admits the blindingly obvious:

John Kerry: Some money Iran received will fund terrorism - CNNPolitics.com

We should rename him Sherlock and then apply the standard retort.

 

[Jludo]

Just watched the "parts unknown" on CNN about Iran, was a very good episode.

 

[ghitch75]

Flush with cash and free of sanctions, Iran's Rouhani mounts international shopping spree | Fox News

 

[Jludo]

Flush with cash and free of sanctions, Iran's Rouhani mounts international shopping spree | Fox News

This part was hilarious;

The flurry of contracts overshadowed a few culture clashes along the way, including the “coverup” in Rome of statues deemed too immodest for the Iranian guests. One Italian complained of “cultural submission,” and in France, a lunch meeting was scuttled when the local party refused to give up their beloved wine at the table.

I do like though how our big concern being that they'll spend the money on nefarious activities that might destabilize the middle east...while daesh rides around in American humvees and shouldering M - 16s

 

[IndyDave1776]

I do like though how our big concern being that they'll spend the money on nefarious activities that might destabilize the middle east...while daesh rides around in American humvees and shouldering M - 16s

I see it as a both/and problem, not an either/or.

 

[ghitch75]

Obama administration engaged in secret talks to pay Iran nearly $2 billion | Fox News

 

[jamil]

Obama administration engaged in secret talks to pay Iran nearly $2 billion | Fox News

During the "negotiations" for the deal I kept getting the feeling that the administration didn't really care what the deal was as long as there was a deal. I really suspect that he doesn't really care whether or not Iran has nukes or not. He just wanted to get them off our ****list whether or not they earned being there.

 

[KG1]

During the "negotiations" for the deal I kept getting the feeling that the administration didn't really care what the deal was as long as there was a deal. I really suspect that he doesn't really care whether or not Iran has nukes or not. He just wanted to get them off our ****list whether or not they earned being there.

This is kinda what I've been saying. He doesn't care how crappy of a deal it was. He just wanted history to show that his administration made a deal when others could not.

It was a deal made just for the sake of saying that they made a deal.

 

[Jludo]

This is kinda what I've been saying. He doesn't care how crappy of a deal it was. He just wanted history to show that his administration made a deal when others could not.

It was a deal made just for the sake of saying that they made a deal.

What do we say in 30 years from now if Iran still hasn't pursued nukes and it seems to have worked?

 

[pudly]

What do we say in 30 years from now if Iran still hasn't pursued nukes and it seems to have worked?

What do you say if that isn't true?

 

[Jludo]

What do you say if that isn't true?

But what do we say if it is true.

 

[KG1]

What do we say in 30 years from now if Iran still hasn't pursued nukes and it seems to have worked?

What do we say if Iran gets a nuke in 10 yrs and blows the **** out of everything. See I can project too. I'm not interested in your what if game.

 

[pudly]

But what do we say if it is true.

We'd likely say: That is the first international agreement that Iran has honored in generations.

Now, what would you say if it isn't true?

 

[Jludo]

What do we say if Iran gets a nuke in 10 yrs and blows the **** out of everything. See I can project too.

In what scenario is that even a slight possibility? Developing a nuke gets sanctions slapped back on, If they ever used one or a proxy used one it'd be the end of Iran.
Why would they ever use one knowing exactly how it ends for them?

 

[Jludo]

We'd likely say, that is the first international agreement that Iran has honored in generations.

Now, what would you say if it isn't true?

You started the stupid game. Rather than answer a question you deflected with the opposite question. Answer the question then ask yours.

 

[pudly]

You started the stupid game.

Not at all. https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/general-political-discussion/375067-nuclear-iran-situation-59.html#post6453105

 

[Jludo]

Pudly you must have edited your response between my reading and replying, did you not have a post saying something along the lines of "see I can play this stupid game to" ?

That or I've gone completely crazy.

 

[jamil]

What do we say in 30 years from now if Iran still hasn't pursued nukes and it seems to have worked?

If people say they want to achieve some political goal, why should the default assumption be that they won't at least try to achieve it? Saying, what if they don't do the expected might be fine if you want to cover all the possibilities, but it's not a serious question to support let'n 'er ride.

 

[printcraft]

Meh what's the worst thing that could happen?

I've gone completely crazy.

QFT

 

[Jludo]

If people say they want to achieve some political goal, why should the default assumption be that they won't at least try to achieve it? Saying, what if they don't do the expected might be fine if you want to cover all the possibilities, but it's not a serious question to support let'n 'er ride.

The overwhelming opinion here is that the agreement won't work, I want to know if Obama will be given credit when it does.