The Libertarian Party Race is Filling Up?

[Expat]

Gary Johnson Campaign offers Austin Petersen $500 for His Gun ? Liberty Hangout

The story even got stranger.... hush money? Really?

 

[indiucky]

Well, the 2016 election is officially a complete joke. Now the choice is between a swindler, a criminal, and a douchebag.

Sweet....This is going to be the best election EVER!!!!!

Just an opinion but I think the swindler has got it in the bag....

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Looks like the Mayans were a few years off.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Gary Johnson Campaign offers Austin Petersen $500 for His Gun ? Liberty Hangout

The story even got stranger.... hush money? Really?

What...a...douche.

 

[jamil]

I just did another i-side-with quiz. I side with Gary Johnson on 75% of the issues. Trump 57%. Hillary 21%.

Of course, they didn't ask questions about douchebaggery.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I just did another i-side-with quiz. I side with Gary Johnson on 75% of the issues. Trump 57%. Hillary 21%.

Of course, they didn't ask questions about douchebaggery.

You mean they didn't ask you if someone offered you a gesture of good will, what would you do with it?

 

[mrjarrell]

Gary Johnson Campaign offers Austin Petersen $500 for His Gun ? Liberty Hangout

The story even got stranger.... hush money? Really?

Considering the source and that Austin Petersens own site has said they kissed and made up, I'll go with this didn't happen. LH was a rabid supporter of Petersen and, since his loss, has gone round the bend.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I just did another i-side-with quiz. I side with Gary Johnson on 75% of the issues. Trump 57%. Hillary 21%.

Of course, they didn't ask questions about douchebaggery.

Which version of Trump do they base the calculation on?

 

[foszoe]

Here's why I think the libertarian party polls from the Republican party because they run run former Republicans for their National offices when was the last time a Democrat ran on the libertarian party ticket at a national level?

 

[printcraft]

Considering the source and that Austin Petersens own site has said they kissed and made up, I'll go with this didn't happen. LH was a rabid supporter of Petersen and, since his loss, has gone round the bend.

Wait.... which part? Offering the $500 to buy back the gun the douche nozzle threw out or throwing the gun out in the first place?
Douche nozzle pretty solid on the 2nd Amendment otherwise..........

 

[Jludo]

Here's why I think the libertarian party polls from the Republican party because they run run former Republicans for their National offices when was the last time a Democrat ran on the libertarian party ticket at a national level?

Both libertarian candidates were governors of blue states with democratic congress'

The polls say they pull equally. If we're pretending both parties inherently get a set number of votes.

 

[mrjarrell]

Reason points out a good piece from the WSJ and others.

Wall Street Journal Editorial Page: Johnson/Weld Is an "Honorable Alternative" to Trump/Clinton - Hit & Run : Reason.com

 

[mrjarrell]

If the Never Hillary crowd doesn't want her to win they better get on board our train.

 

[BugI02]

Never-Trump conservatives search for alternative - CNNPolitics.com

Apologies for the source, but...

Why don't the #NeverRelevant crowd just jump on the Libertarian bandwagon? They already have ballot access in all 50 and they support conservative principles. Why spend all that time and treasure...

Unless its more about control than it is conservatism. They don't want to help someone notTRump win, they just want to make sure Trump loses and they get to pick up the pieces

 

[Dosproduction]

when I watched the debates I liked Peterson. Gary is ok though in my book. He sometime comes across as a statist though LOL.

 

[foszoe]

Both libertarian candidates were governors of blue states with democratic congress'

The polls say they pull equally. If we're pretending both parties inherently get a set number of votes.

Polls change daily. I am more interested in an answer to my question though.

 

[Expat]

They were talking about Kristal's search for an alternative on the Today Show this morning. I think it was Chuck Todd that brought up the LP candidates and suggested Wm already has an alternative...

 

[chipbennett]

The Libertarian candidate is more Conservative than Trump. I wonder why all the "Well he's our guy" Trump supporters aren't jumping ship for an actual Conservative-minded candidate?

Hmm. Odd, that.

Three, off the top of my head:

A. Because the Libertarian party needs to grow up and act like adults at the political dinner table
B. Because the Libertarian party explicitly supports abortion
C. Because voting for the Libertarian candidate only helps Clinton win

 

[ArcadiaGP]

C. Because voting for the Libertarian candidate only helps Clinton win

Or Trump. Not sure why everyone ignores that.

 

[chipbennett]

Or voting for Trump. Don't avoid what I'm saying here... why do you default a non R/D vote to be for Clinton?

I'm sure the people who kept assuming that every non-Trump vote would go to their chosen Republican primary candidate, if only the other "splitter" candidates would drop out, are similarly scratching their heads about this question. It's like people don't even pay attention to reality.

It's simple, really: in a three-party race, the presence of the third candidate dilutes the voting bloc of the person most ideologically aligned with the third - thereby strengthening the voting bloc of the candidate least ideologically aligned with the other two. It's the same reason that Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton. (And the same way that the Green Party may have helped give us GWB.)

People who are going to vote Democrat are not even considering voting third party. There is virtually no one who would normally vote Democrat, that is considering voting Libertarian. Libertarian is most closely aligned with Republican, because Democrats despise the concepts of individual liberty, and limited government.

(There are the Bernie supporters, of course - but that's a separate discussion.)