The joke that is Marlin...

[silverspoon]

The good news is that Cerberus Capital Management is trying to sell it's holdings in the Freedom Group.

In Unusual Move, Cerberus to Sell Freedom Group, a Gun Company - NYTimes.com

Maybe we will get lucky and some company that actually cares about quality will acquire the firearm maker.

 

[Archer46176]

My wife's friend just bought a new Model 60 and it seems to be as fine as my 21 and 19 year old Model 60s. I do prefer my 10/22s but the Marlin Model 60 seems to still be a fine rifle.

 

[Hohn]

This would be the same Cerberus that killed Chrysler, no?

 

[Greengunner]

I believe your correct Hohn

 

[billyramair]

My dad has a marlin that has shot more woodchucks, rabbits, opossums, coons, etc. than I can count, he bought it new, and since it was a cheap rifle, he decided to experiment, and see how long he could go without cleaning before it would have problems, after about 30+ years, and thousands and thousands of rounds, it has never had a jam and is extremely accurate. I know they are nothing like this anymore, and that is a shame.

 

[Shiban]

I got an update yesterday.

The replacement rifle was shipped to the repair center in Ill, and is expected to be delivered on Tues. 3/26. They in turn have to ship it to me. At least it's out for delivery. I may have it by the end of the week. I'll just have to check it THOROUGHLY when I get it back.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Every maker make lemons. It happens.

Problem is finding your price point. Shooters will use $40 in gasoline to save $10 on a gun.

Marlin has to keep its overhead down. That means fews QC inspections which demand labor hours.

If Marlin put more time in their guns, what would happen to the price?

Right, go up. We would have 2,344 thread on INGO entitled "The ourrage that is the price of a Marlin", "They is proud of dem raffles" and, of course, lots of +1s.

I hope they fix it so it will run. The 795 is a lot of gun for the money, but it is not an Anschutz.

 

[snapping turtle]

I think I have posted my marlin boxes here before.

Guess which one is pre buyout and which one was post buyout.

 

[jve153]

you are supposed to keep those away from children? oops...
i have let quite a few children learn to shoot my 795's, in public no less. wish i would have read the box...

 

[Shiban]

I think I have posted my marlin boxes here before.

Guess which one is pre buyout and which one was post buyout.

I'd say top is pre. It looks like a QC initial on it. EDIT: Ok I'm blind and dumb... holy crap, I didn't see that.

 

[Lodogg2221]

Well, it could be the top box was made in Louisiana. Or Alabama. Or a number of other states where they actually say it that way, lol.

The reason most people dont notice, and possibly why it was missed in QC, is that our brains only care where the first and last letter is and the rest of the letters can be in any order and we can still read it.

"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteers be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

 

[Lonestar6]

Well, it could be the top box was made in Louisiana. Or Alabama. Or a number of other states where they actually say it that way, lol.

The reason most people dont notice, and possibly why it was missed in QC, is that our brains only care where the first and last letter is and the rest of the letters can be in any order and we can still read it.

"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteers be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

wow, either you disabled your spell checker or that was one heckuva battle

 

[snapping turtle]

The gun that came in the box is long gone. The box I kept. Mike at crackshot calls me "John the Marlin guy." so when he got that shipment in he called me over to look at them. One came home with me. Don't mess much with anything other than Marlin levers.

Cerberus capitol is making them most of everything they buy.

Marlins fit and finish as far as stock to wood goes being very bad has to do with the fact that they were using up every rejected butstock and forend from the seconds and thrids marlin would not put on them when private ownership was in place. They had a run of Dicks/big 5/wall-mart/ 41 mags 1894's that were very bad on fit/finish and quality of wood.

The bulleyes in the stock was to only be used on walnut guns. During the takeover I was able to find one of the 195 laminate stocked 22 with a bullseye that escaped the factory before the other 305 stocks were removed from the bullseye line.

 

[Shiban]

I just received a call from the "repair center" in Ill. They received the replacement today and called telling me the needed an FFL to ship it to. There's another $20 added to the gun. So far my $150 rifle is now $190 with the $20 shipping to the center.

All companies have QC issues from time to time. I just happen to find those companies every time it seems. I wanted the gun because I thought it was going to be a cheap plinking rifle. For the money, I could have probably found a better used rifle. Live and learn. Thank you Four Guns for being reasonable on your FFL cost.

I did pull the mag from the rifle before I sent it though. I wonder if a new one is included in the box... Was I wrong for doing that? At least I get a $10 mag if it's there.

 

[Lodogg2221]

I just received a call from the "repair center" in Ill. They received the replacement today and called telling me the needed an FFL to ship it to. There's another $20 added to the gun. So far my $150 rifle is now $190 with the $20 shipping to the center.

All companies have QC issues from time to time. I just happen to find those companies every time it seems. I wanted the gun because I thought it was going to be a cheap plinking rifle. For the money, I could have probably found a better used rifle. Live and learn. Thank you Four Guns for being reasonable on your FFL cost.

I did pull the mag from the rifle before I sent it though. I wonder if a new one is included in the box... Was I wrong for doing that? At least I get a $10 mag if it's there.

If they are the manufacturer, they do NOT need to send it to an FFL. Browning sent me a brand spankin new O/U when my old one had issues, and it came right to my door.
Call them back and tell them that, and tell them about the extra cost and that they need to be responsible for the return charges, NOT YOU.

 

[Lerious]

i recently bought a marlin 795 Semi-auto .22lr.
my gun jams a lot also.
Turned out to be the magazine problem.

25 round champion magazines are hit or miss. factory 10-round magazines work like magic.

 

[ru44mag]

I think I have posted my marlin boxes here before.

Guess which one is pre buyout and which one was post buyout.

Ok. When I get home I'm checking my Marlin boxes. I bought lever action 44mag 5 or 6 years ago. Love it. Just recently bought .22 bolt action. Just had it out once. Seemed fine. 30 years ago we all bought 10/22s if we wanted autos. No problems there.

 

[Shiban]

If they are the manufacturer, they do NOT need to send it to an FFL. Browning sent me a brand spankin new O/U when my old one had issues, and it came right to my door.
Call them back and tell them that, and tell them about the extra cost and that they need to be responsible for the return charges, NOT YOU.

The rifle was sent to their designated repair facility. The repair center saw that it needed replaced and it was sent from there to the factory. Since it was shipped from that repair center, it was returned to them to in turn be sent to me. Since the repair center is a gun shop, they had to send it to an FFL I guess. The place that has it never said anything about charging me for them to ship it back, but obviously the FFL that receives it has to charge me. It sucks that I have to pay for shipping both ways, but I don't see a way around it.

I really just want this done, so I can be done with them.

 

[MikeDVB]

I have a newer bolt-action Marlin that was very rough out of the box. It's just a .22lr so it's not critical, just my plinker for fun. I don't really have the skills to know where to touch it up so I've just run it hard and it's smoothing out.

If anybody has the skills/time to give it a good looking over and smooth it up a bit, I'm down with donating some funds .

 

[Oresti]

I think I have posted my marlin boxes here before.

Guess which one is pre buyout and which one was post buyout.

No way. That is hilarious.