The Ferguson thread

[DoggyDaddy]

They probably would have revealed how little influence they actually have had they been there. On the other hand, there's a possibility they knew this would happen and [STRIKE]believe it's justified.[/STRIKE] didn't want to get their hands dirty.

FIFY...

 

[churchmouse]

Al was busy in NYC trying to stir things up there. Why should the folks in "flyover country" have all the fun?

Bigger market in NY

I am in no way against protests for a just cause.

Riots/destruction and looting are in no way a just cause.

Again, authority's knew this was ready to go. They knew when, they knew where. Yet, they had no control over the mayhem.

 

[churchmouse]

This was going to happen regardless of the decision.
The facts simply don't matter. This has little to nothing to do with mike brown.

He was merely the match.....fuse was already set.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

When I went to bed, I know they had a crowd going up there. Was Al leading the march? I couldn't hear a bull-horn blaring.

He was giving a speech in Harlem.

Nation Reacts to Grand Jury Decision in Michael Brown Shooting - NBC News

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

He was merely the match.....fuse was already set.

I still cannot, out of all of this, tease out what "they" want changed. It seems to me, they need to look in a mirror and do a bit of sellf examination.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

He was giving a speech in Harlem.

Nation Reacts to Grand Jury Decision in Michael Brown Shooting - NBC News

"This is the new Jim Crow."

Just...wow...

 

[Lebowski]

 

[churchmouse]

I still cannot, out of all of this, tease out what "they" want changed. It seems to me, they need to look in a mirror and do a bit of sellf examination.

There is no clear defined answer we as a society will understand.
"They" want free reign. Live as they will with no reprisal.
Do as they please when they please to whom they please. This is obvious to me by the actions of the thieves villeins and rioting nut bags.
Again.....Protest is not the real issue even though their is nothing to protest about. They as a culture (sub-culture) have been drinking the oppressed for so long they do not believe our social structure and laws apply to them. This opinion has been formed by conversation and observation over several years. This does not only apply to those of color. There is a sub-culture in our race that see's the world through the same mind set.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I still cannot, out of all of this, tease out what "they" want changed. It seems to me, they need to look in a mirror and do a bit of sellf examination.

Exactly. Behaving in what for many is perceived as stereotypical behavior to protest against being stereotyped is like screwing to promote virginity.

 

[churchmouse]

Exactly. Behaving in what for many is perceived as stereotypical behavior to protest against being stereotyped is like screwing to promote virginity.

As with any group of "Children"......they push, we bend, they push more and we respond by bending again. The more you allow the more they take.
We have been bending over for so long now in the name of things we (currently bending) had zero to do with we have lost sight of what is reasonable and proper. The "Children" continue to push as that is the way of things.
This all needs to stop. We do not owe anything. That debt has been paid. And repaid.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

There is no clear defined answer we as a society will understand.
"They" want free reign. Live as they will with no reprisal.
Do as they please when they please to whom they please. This is obvious to me by the actions of the thieves villeins and rioting nut bags.
Again.....Protest is not the real issue even though their is nothing to protest about. They as a culture (sub-culture) have been drinking the oppressed for so long they do not believe our social structure and laws apply to them. This opinion has been formed by conversation and observation over several years. This does not only apply to those of color. There is a sub-culture in our race that see's the world through the same mind set.

Some of INGO's own such believers have maintained their distance from this thread, I can't help but notice.

 

[churchmouse]

Some of INGO's own such believers have maintained their distance from this thread, I can't help but notice.

I have stayed on the edges and avoided to a point. I have very deep feelings about this. I see the ruination of society looming as we allow these pockets of stupidity to hole us hostage.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

As with any group of "Children"......they push, we bend, they push more and we respond by bending again. The more you allow the more they take.
We have been bending over for so long now in the name of things we (currently bending) had zero to do with we have lost sight of what is reasonable and proper. The "Children" continue to push as that is the way of things.
This all needs to stop. We do not owe anything. That debt has been paid. And repaid.

Couldn't agree more. In fact it could be argued that by behaving in this manner, they are racking up a debt that they will owe to the rest of society. Will the children, grandchildren and great great grandchildren be held accountable for the sins of their ancestors that are being committed today?

 

[churchmouse]

Couldn't agree more. In fact it could be argued that by behaving in this manner, they are racking up a debt that they will owe to the rest of society.

And repay with what.........just saying.

After generations of doing nothing and expecting everything this will not change with out reprisal.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

And repay with what.........just saying.

After generations of doing nothing and expecting everything this will not change with out reprisal.

I would settle for repayment by behaving in a civil manner, being productive members of society and abiding by the rule of law. Maybe that's asking too much?

 

[HoughMade]

I'm going to harp on this as long as I have to. The chaos and violence is being carried out by a comparatively few people. It would be prudent to refrain from making broad societal conclusions based on these miscreants.

More troubling is the apparent white guilt which is so racist that it calls upon us to understand why the worst of these idiots are justified.

 

[churchmouse]

I'm going to harp on this as long as I have to. The chaos and violence is being carried out by a comparatively few people. It would be prudent to refrain from making broad societal conclusions based on these miscreants.

More troubling is the apparent white guilt which is so racist that it calls upon us to understand why the worst of these idiots are justified.

Please note I did not use the big brush in my statement. Not every person of color in the area is out there. I do understand but all of those in the streets are out there to push a cultural driven agenda. Mr. Brown has been proven to be wrong and they are not in acceptance of the systems judgement. They were ready to roll regardless as the stage is theirs right now.
They are riding on the white guilt wave of emotion.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'm going to harp on this as long as I have to. The chaos and violence is being carried out by a comparatively few people. It would be prudent to refrain from making broad societal conclusions based on these miscreants.

More troubling is the apparent white guilt which is so racist that it calls upon us to understand why the worst of these idiots are justified.

True. The violence and chaos ARE being carried out by comparatively few people. However, those few have the support (explicit and implicit) of many by a) expressing support of this behavior (explicit) and b) not not condemning the behavior and seeking redress for those injured by the behavior (implicit). "Asking for calm" is not condemnation.

 

[88GT]

Like our dear friends and advantage takers Rev. Jackson/Al Sharpton these people seize these opportunity's to get some air time. It is a revenue stream for them.

there is a reason I call them poverty pimps.

I'm going to harp on this as long as I have to. The chaos and violence is being carried out by a comparatively few people. It would be prudent to refrain from making broad societal conclusions based on these miscreants.

More troubling is the apparent white guilt which is so racist that it calls upon us to understand why the worst of these idiots are justified.

Don't kid yourself. Their mindset/opinion is rather widespread.

 

[CHCRandy]

Now they are mad that they don't have a store to get Thanksgiving food at........idiots! I am tired of hearing how 95% are good people and 5% are causing trouble. The way I was brought up....that 95% would dictate how that 5% acted......anything less makes them a part of the problem.