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    T.Lex

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    As for me, abso-freaking-lutely. Bloomberg's rolodex (or contact database, these days) in the financial services industry is extensive. To say the least.

    And his tax returns.

    But, since he's actually been elected to things before, I suspect that he's already run this gamut of obstacles.
     

    jamil

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    Biden really sired an awesome son, apparently trying to outdo Trump’s pornstar ****ing while his wife is pregnant, Hunter started ****ing his dead brother’s widow shortly after his death, and then at some point, cheated on her with some other ho. Of course widow biden dumps the loser just like Hunter’s wife did before her. Okay, so ho lady is pregnant, and claims the tests prove it’s his kid. You know, because who knows who else she was ****ing. Jeez, these politicians and their families are like trailer trash on Jerry Springer, except they have money and/or political power.
     

    Alpo

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    How would I know?

    I do expect that Bloomberg is a savvier pol than Trump. If he is truly in the race, he'll be a significant adversary. His track record in NY that most of us are aware of is good. He's never gone bankrupt. He doesn't have emoluments problems that I can see.

    It's still early. I think we need a few more weeks to really get a better handle on what his plans are.

    I don't think it's worth debating at this point. Not enough info.
     

    BugI02

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    Biden really sired an awesome son, apparently trying to outdo Trump’s pornstar ****ing while his wife is pregnant, Hunter started ****ing his dead brother’s widow shortly after his death, and then at some point, cheated on her with some other ho. Of course widow biden dumps the loser just like Hunter’s wife did before her. Okay, so ho lady is pregnant, and claims the tests prove it’s his kid. You know, because who knows who else she was ****ing. Jeez, these politicians and their families are like trailer trash on Jerry Springer, except they have money and/or political power.

    And credentials, don't forget Hunter's a Yalie

    Apologies to Mr Joshua "Officer Murtaugh, don't be foolish. Look at the [STRIKE]hardware[/STRIKE] [credentials]"
     

    Brad69

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    I acted like Hunter in my twenties! (Without the drugs)

    Then I grew up!

    Still would have not bonked my dead brother wife (I bet that messed with her kids heads why is uncle Hunter my daddy now) or went on a crack binge in the homeless area of L.A.!

    Some dude named “baby down” found him wandering the streets and took care of him the one good person in crackville!

    https://pagesix.com/2019/07/01/hunter-biden-started-dating-brothers-widow-right-after-crack-binge/

    You guys have to read this and then think about Hunter getting paid all that money from the Ukraine and China for what!

    So a drug head with no idea of personal control gets paid to be on boards of companies to advise them?
    He couldn’t get hired by a temporary agency in the real world!
     

    BugI02

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    How would I know?

    I do expect that Bloomberg is a savvier pol than Trump. If he is truly in the race, he'll be a significant adversary. His track record in NY that most of us are aware of is good. He's never gone bankrupt. He doesn't have emoluments problems that I can see.

    It's still early. I think we need a few more weeks to really get a better handle on what his plans are.

    I don't think it's worth debating at this point. Not enough info.

    The great (old) white hope?
     

    Alpo

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    Yeah....I dunno. My first reaction to the announcement was not favorable. But, he was a hell of a mayor according to most in NYC. The Big Gulp sodas stuff shows some nanny characteristics.

    His biggest downside is all the gun control stuff and interstate stings he attempted to run on guns. That pretty much tells me he's not someone I can vote for.
     

    T.Lex

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    I think the anti-gun stuff is an interesting dynamic. As you note, there's no chance of my vote in the general, also. (And I don't do that side of the primary.)

    But, kinda like with HRC, the gun-rights establishment already knows him. We know how to defeat his type of charge. There would be a familiarity to the fight that is comforting.

    These n00bs running ... they might fight differently. (A couple obvious examples aren't included in that.)
     

    mmpsteve

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    With Bloomberg's announcement, will those blasting Trump for having businesses and hotels, citing emoluments clauses, claiming every event held at a Trump facility profiting off government, etc., hold Bloomberg to the same standards?

    For instance by those standards Bloomberg News, must be held to all campaign finance laws and regulations. An example, Anyone advertising there is making a campaign contribution. The candidate/potential office holder/campaign must be held indistinguishable from the business. I believe that is the standard several of you have held Trump to.

    I saw it the first time, and just figured it was a rhetorical question. I'm guessing there is enough legal distance between Bloomberg and Bloomberg News to separate them as entities, just like Trump is a seperate entity from Trump Hotels. But IANAL, so don't have the expertise to answer. I think we already know how the media will handle it: "Bloomberg's a freakin Hero who creates many jobs".

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    Ingomike

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    I saw it the first time, and just figured it was a rhetorical question. I'm guessing there is enough legal distance between Bloomberg and Bloomberg News to separate them as entities, just like Trump is a seperate entity from Trump Hotels. But IANAL, so don't have the expertise to answer. I think we already know how the media will handle it: "Bloomberg's a freakin Hero who creates many jobs".

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    I really thought this a fascinating topic.

    We all have seen the charges, foreign governments currying favor by staying at Trump hotels. Does that apply to Bloomberg? Foreign governments purchase ad space, provide deals concerning coverage? Trump also put legal distance between his entities but not enough for the left. Just want to know where the line is?
     

    T.Lex

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    Bloomberg has always been in the business of information - aggregation and distribution (for a price).

    He probably has intel that leads him to believe there's a path for him to get the nomination.
     

    Leadeye

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    Bloomberg has always been in the business of information - aggregation and distribution (for a price).

    He probably has intel that leads him to believe there's a path for him to get the nomination.

    Boy Howdy!;)

    He probably already knows the asking price for the nomination.
     

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    Tombs

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    As for me, abso-freaking-lutely. Bloomberg's rolodex (or contact database, these days) in the financial services industry is extensive. To say the least.

    And his tax returns.

    But, since he's actually been elected to things before, I suspect that he's already run this gamut of obstacles.

    Nothing amounts to a hill of beans compared to the thrashing Trump can deliver to people, lol. Trump would know him very well, too.

    I just find it kind of comical and highly unlikely that someone like bloomberg would even stand a chance in a modern leftist democrat part. I think AOC would poll better.
     

    T.Lex

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    Nothing amounts to a hill of beans compared to the thrashing Trump can deliver to people, lol. Trump would know him very well, too.

    I just find it kind of comical and highly unlikely that someone like bloomberg would even stand a chance in a modern leftist democrat part. I think AOC would poll better.

    His strategy is/will be clearly to take the middle. The best scenario for him is that Trump (general election) voters cross over and vote in the Dem primaries since there won't be any real action on the GOP side. Alot of that will depend on local elections, and the primaries down the ticket.
     

    Ingomike

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    His strategy is/will be clearly to take the middle. The best scenario for him is that Trump (general election) voters cross over and vote in the Dem primaries since there won't be any real action on the GOP side. Alot of that will depend on local elections, and the primaries down the ticket.

    This is a political concept I think is just wrong. The parties have the right of association to select the candidates of the parties choosing. Members of the other party and independents have no right to participate in party elections. There is no right to participate in party elections. Does anyone here believe that since Republicans have no presidential primary we should organize an effort to elect the Democrat candidate we think easier to beat in the election? Any organized effort by non-members to affect a party elections is election tampering...
     

    T.Lex

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    This is a political concept I think is just wrong. The parties have the right of association to select the candidates of the parties choosing. Members of the other party and independents have no right to participate in party elections. There is no right to participate in party elections. Does anyone here believe that since Republicans have no presidential primary we should organize an effort to elect the Democrat candidate we think easier to beat in the election? Any organized effort by non-members to affect a party elections is election tampering...

    First, again, there are multiple vulnerabilities to our political system.

    But, second, the right of association belongs to individuals, not parties. To the extent they want to join together into factions...err... parties, they can. I recall Rush Limbaugh trying to get Republicans to vote in the Dem primary. (He may've tried that several times.) People have the right to do that.

    Wait.

    I just re-read your post and may have misunderstood. Do you mean the internal party elections? For that, each party can make voting contingent on long-term membership or whatever they want.
     
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