The Democrat Primary Race Is Filling Up

[Vigilant]

Challenge accepted: Raquel Welch

I see your Welch, and raise you Adrienne Barbeau

 

[Alpo]

That's kind of like telling someone you're okay with abortion but putting 695 pages of fluff over it to try to create enough context to get the reader to forget that it's a human being they're killing.

That one paragraph spells out the moral bankruptcy of the author.

Your ignorance is boundless, it appears.

Either that or you're Karnak

 

[jamil]

Yeah, let me get right on that

He's not totally wrong about income inequality. Where he's wrong is that progressive taxes necessarily prevents income inequality. It doesn't. He's also wrong that it's a grave problem that needs to be solved (caveat notwithstanding).

If you really don't want Jeff Bezos to have all the money, stop giving it to him. The reason he has all the money is because he's really good at selling **** to you, and you keep buying **** on Amazon. Wealth inequality isn't that big of a problem when everyone is getting wealthier. The poor, except for the exceptionally poor, are getting richer, just orders of magnitude slower than rich people. This is because people like Jeff Bezos are really ****ing that much better than everyone else success. They're uber competitive and uber productive and uber driven (no pun intended).

Resetting wealth inequality is actually really hard. Progressive taxation doesn't do it, at least not significantly. The only way wealth inequality has ever been reset involved mass death. War. Famine. Revolution. Regardless of the system you try, you'll still have it. Maybe not in the form of wealth, if you're thinking of something closer to socialism, where personal wealth isn't allowed, but even then, there are other inequalities set up between the ruling class and the working class. When the Jeff Bezos' of the world can't build companies they build whatever they can. If Stalin would have been a capitalist, I"m sure he could have been an early Jeff Bezos.

 

[jamil]

It's OK to love Salma Hayek, but in her day, Ann-Margret was the hottest thing on two wheels.

Huh. I was gonna say, agreed, but this isn't the Ann-Margret thread. Then I saw it's not the Selma thread either. So...

 

[jamil]

 

[Tombs]

He's not totally wrong about income inequality. Where he's wrong is that progressive taxes necessarily prevents income inequality. It doesn't. He's also wrong that it's a grave problem that needs to be solved (caveat notwithstanding).

If you really don't want Jeff Bezos to have all the money, stop giving it to him. The reason he has all the money is because he's really good at selling **** to you, and you keep buying **** on Amazon. Wealth inequality isn't that big of a problem when everyone is getting wealthier. The poor, except for the exceptionally poor, are getting richer, just orders of magnitude slower than rich people. This is because people like Jeff Bezos are really ****ing that much better than everyone else success. They're uber competitive and uber productive and uber driven (no pun intended).

Resetting wealth inequality is actually really hard. Progressive taxation doesn't do it, at least not significantly. The only way wealth inequality has ever been reset involved mass death. War. Famine. Revolution. Regardless of the system you try, you'll still have it. Maybe not in the form of wealth, if you're thinking of something closer to socialism, where personal wealth isn't allowed, but even then, there are other inequalities set up between the ruling class and the working class. When the Jeff Bezos' of the world can't build companies they build whatever they can. If Stalin would have been a capitalist, I"m sure he could have been an early Jeff Bezos.

Wealth inequality will exist as long as intellectual inequality and luck inequality exists.

While I don't like corporations, like the tech giants, having as much or more power than the government and the people, changing tax code isn't going to mean much when they can affect politics to the point they pay none.

Wealth redistribution just affects the more honest folks trying to make a living. It'll never begin to affect those at the top of the foodchain, they didn't get there by playing by the rules.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

That's kind of like telling someone you're okay with abortion but putting 695 pages of fluff over it to try to create enough context to get the reader to forget that it's a human being they're killing.

That one paragraph spells out the moral bankruptcy of the author.

Would it be ironic the author sold his book in a capitalist economy, and enjoyed profits from the fruits of his labor?

 

[Tombs]

Would it be ironic the author sold his book in a capitalist economy, and enjoyed profits from the fruits of his labor?

No, since those types always believe in the principle of "do as I say, not as I do."

Otherwise you'd never see a single democrat claiming a tax deduction.

 

[Alpo]

He's not totally wrong about income inequality. Where he's wrong is that progressive taxes necessarily prevents income inequality. It doesn't. He's also wrong that it's a grave problem that needs to be solved (caveat notwithstanding).

If you really don't want Jeff Bezos to have all the money, stop giving it to him. The reason he has all the money is because he's really good at selling **** to you, and you keep buying **** on Amazon. Wealth inequality isn't that big of a problem when everyone is getting wealthier. The poor, except for the exceptionally poor, are getting richer, just orders of magnitude slower than rich people. This is because people like Jeff Bezos are really ****ing that much better than everyone else success. They're uber competitive and uber productive and uber driven (no pun intended).

Resetting wealth inequality is actually really hard. Progressive taxation doesn't do it, at least not significantly. The only way wealth inequality has ever been reset involved mass death. War. Famine. Revolution. Regardless of the system you try, you'll still have it. Maybe not in the form of wealth, if you're thinking of something closer to socialism, where personal wealth isn't allowed, but even then, there are other inequalities set up between the ruling class and the working class. When the Jeff Bezos' of the world can't build companies they build whatever they can. If Stalin would have been a capitalist, I"m sure he could have been an early Jeff Bezos.

DD Eisenhower cautioned against increasing power in the military-industrial complex. Many economists have further cautioned against the concentration of wealth and power and its potential/real effects on democracy. Many of the complaints on this site by conservatives result from those factors.

It has been noted by economists on both sides that real wages and wealth have not increased for more than a decade or two for the middle class. Two family earners live better than their grandparents, but at what cost to the family unit?

Real GNP growth has limits. Real limits. To the extent that the growth is "owned" by the wealthiest in the nation, it is unlikely that those not in that group will see wholesale improvements in their situations. I know that on INGO, everyone is reaping the windfall of a vibrant economy. It is not so everywhere. The employment offered has less certainty than in times past, at generally flat wages (inflation adjusted). "A free market" you say. "Stacked Deck" say I.

 

[Tombs]

DD Eisenhower cautioned against increasing power in the military-industrial complex. Many economists have further cautioned against the concentration of wealth and power and its potential/real effects on democracy. Many of the complaints on this site by conservatives result from those factors.

It has been noted by economists on both sides that real wages and wealth have not increased for more than a decade or two for the middle class. Two family earners live better than their grandparents, but at what cost to the family unit?

Real GNP growth has limits. Real limits. To the extent that the growth is "owned" by the wealthiest in the nation, it is unlikely that those not in that group will see wholesale improvements in their situations. I know that on INGO, everyone is reaping the windfall of a vibrant economy. It is not so everywhere. The employment offered has less certainty than in times past, at generally flat wages (inflation adjusted). "A free market" you say. "Stacked Deck" say I.

Why would wages rise when democrats import tens of millions of unskilled laborers willing to work for those lower wages?

It's far from a free market, especially when a corporation can lobby for licensing to keep its opposition from being able to enter into competition.

 

[Alpo]

I had that one hanging on the door of my dorm room in my freshman year.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I’m sorry, whats the Clinton foundations sum up to? How many houses does Bernie own? What a joke. I’m sick of leftist talking about income inequality when they have billions of dollars.

 

[Alpo]

Why would wages rise when democrats import tens of millions of unskilled laborers willing to work for those lower wages?

It's far from a free market, especially when a corporation can lobby for licensing to keep its opposition from being able to enter into competition.

Who are the TENS OF MILLIONS employed by? Democrats? You speak with forked tongue.

 

[Tombs]

I’m sorry, whats the Clinton foundations sum up to? How many houses does Bernie own? What a joke. I’m sick of leftist talking about income inequality when they have billions of dollars.

That's what happens when giant corporations pay you off to import cheap labor.

Who are the TENS OF MILLIONS employed by? Democrats? You speak with forked tongue.

Nope, the old and broken republicans as well, like little W, McCain, and all of that garbage.

They all put corporate profits above the American people.

 

[BugI02]

The book is 696 pages. You're satisfied you know what it says with one paragraph.

I've never felt the desire (or need) to read Das Kapital, either. But I have read Vom Kriege if that helps. So many books, so little time; triage is necessary

 

[Alpo]

That's what happens when giant corporations pay you off to import cheap labor.



Nope, the old and broken republicans as well, like little W, McCain, and all of that garbage.

I thought all the giant corporations (owned by republicans, by and large) shipped the jobs offshore?

 

[Tombs]

I thought all the giant corporations (owned by republicans, by and large) shipped the jobs offshore?

Who do you think works in amazon warehouses? The old giants are not the new giants.

 

[Alpo]

I've never felt the desire (or need) to read Das Kapital, either. But I have read Vom Kriege if that helps. So many books, so little time; triage is necessary

It just puts your knowledge base in context.

 

[Alpo]

Who do you think works in amazon warehouses? The old giants are not the new giants.

So, you go from generalization and broad accusation...to one specific? And I bet you aren't all that up on what the average Amazon salary is.

And are you aware of Bezos' emphasis on hiring veterans?

 

[BugI02]

DD Eisenhower cautioned against increasing power in the military-industrial complex. Many economists have further cautioned against the concentration of wealth and power and its potential/real effects on democracy. Many of the complaints on this site by conservatives result from those factors.

It has been noted by economists on both sides that real wages and wealth have not increased for more than a decade or two for the middle class. Two family earners live better than their grandparents, but at what cost to the family unit?

Real GNP growth has limits. Real limits. To the extent that the growth is "owned" by the wealthiest in the nation, it is unlikely that those not in that group will see wholesale improvements in their situations. I know that on INGO, everyone is reaping the windfall of a vibrant economy. It is not so everywhere. The employment offered has less certainty than in times past, at generally flat wages (inflation adjusted). "A free market" you say. "Stacked Deck" say I.

Well, as one wag said "Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others that have been tried"