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    T.Lex

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    This is no head fake, he filed real documents to keep his options open if he wants to run. Maybe I will be proven wrong, but I cannot imagine Bloomberg exciting the rabid TDS democratic base. The only thing he has is money...
     

    T.Lex

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    He fits the old template of a limousine liberal. He feels familiar to them. He can talk about markets and non-socialist stuff, because he's made a bunch of money. That will appeal to alot of voters.

    Oh. Kinda like Trump. ;)

    A bit more seriously, Trump drew a bunch of previously-Dem-voters in some key states because of his persona. Some might think that Bloomberg is better able to bring those voters back into the fold.

    Unfortunately, it may come down to gun rights. How many of those Trump Democrats want to protect gun rights? I really don't know.
     

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    He fits the old template of a limousine liberal. He feels familiar to them. He can talk about markets and non-socialist stuff, because he's made a bunch of money. That will appeal to alot of voters.

    Oh. Kinda like Trump. ;)

    A bit more seriously, Trump drew a bunch of previously-Dem-voters in some key states because of his persona. Some might think that Bloomberg is better able to bring those voters back into the fold.

    Unfortunately, it may come down to gun rights. How many of those Trump Democrats want to protect gun rights? I really don't know.

    One hypothesis I have is it could be a better chance than we might think. Right now, the economy is doing pretty well so there aren't those pocket-book issues burning that might otherwise be a bigger driver on selecting a candidate.
     

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    Bloomberg doesn't have a chance. Democrats are not going to award the nomination to a NY Billionaire. They have learned to hate NY Billionaires.

    In any event, Bloomberg has never been in touch with the electorate or anything else west of the Hudson River.

    Aside from money and connections, he really doesn't have much in the way of positives.
     

    T.Lex

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    Bloomberg doesn't have a chance. Democrats are not going to award the nomination to a NY Billionaire. They have learned to hate NY Billionaires.

    In any event, Bloomberg has never been in touch with the electorate or anything else west of the Hudson River.

    Aside from money and connections, he really doesn't have much in the way of positives.
    On the barren political landscape, post-Trump candidacy, do you really think that's true?

    I mean, Trump didn't have much more than money, name recognition, and connections when he ran in 2016 as a Republican. Interestingly, Bloomberg has also changed political affiliations - which in the modern era seems more like a positive than a negative.

    If nothing else, this will shake loose some of the low-hanging fruit in the Dem primaries.
     

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    Bloomberg doesn't have a chance. Democrats are not going to award the nomination to a NY Billionaire. They have learned to hate NY Billionaires.

    In any event, Bloomberg has never been in touch with the electorate or anything else west of the Hudson River.

    Aside from money and connections, he really doesn't have much in the way of positives.

    There are a lot of "desperate housewives" (aka Moms Demanding some Action) that seem to love his money though.
     

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    Bloomberg has been the subject of sexual harassment lawsuits in the past, pretty misogynistic comments and attitudes. I wonder how that will play with the democrats base? Still, he can simply buy all the support and organization he wants, it's a dc deal.

    Money talks, the bigger it is the louder it talks.
     

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    Bloomberg has been the subject of sexual harassment lawsuits in the past, pretty misogynistic comments and attitudes. I wonder how that will play with the democrats base? Still, he can simply buy all the support and organization he wants, it's a dc deal.

    Money talks, the bigger it is the louder it talks.

    Ha! Ha!
    Pretty funny.
    Liberals and Democrats always get a free pass on abusing women.
    Slick Willy committed a text book act of sexual harassment and everybody, including the National Organization of Women, said it was a private matter between him and his wife.
    Whoopi Goldberg said that when Roman Polanski drugged a 12 year old girl to have sex with her that it was OK because it wasn't "rape" rape; the girl was drugged instead of being beaten or physically restrained.

    Progressives don't care about women.
     

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    He fits the old template of a limousine liberal. He feels familiar to them. He can talk about markets and non-socialist stuff, because he's made a bunch of money. That will appeal to alot of voters.

    Oh. Kinda like Trump. ;)

    A bit more seriously, Trump drew a bunch of previously-Dem-voters in some key states because of his persona. Some might think that Bloomberg is better able to bring those voters back into the fold.

    Unfortunately, it may come down to gun rights. How many of those Trump Democrats want to protect gun rights? I really don't know.

    I'm pretty sure they'd be wrong. Trump won because some blue collar purple states went to Trump. The democrats that Trump brought in were pretty much working class because they felt abandoned by the Democratic Party with their primary focus on social justice. I really don't think a guy like Bloomberg would appeal to them. Biden and Trump, ironically, are the two candidates in the race with the most pro-labor cred. Bloomy isn't getting any of that play.
     

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    On the barren political landscape, post-Trump candidacy, do you really think that's true?

    I mean, Trump didn't have much more than money, name recognition, and connections when he ran in 2016 as a Republican. Interestingly, Bloomberg has also changed political affiliations - which in the modern era seems more like a positive than a negative.

    If nothing else, this will shake loose some of the low-hanging fruit in the Dem primaries.

    If you don't understand why Trump appealed to people, you haven't been paying attention. Trump said the words. What is Bloomberg going to say? We'll make small sodas great again?
     

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    On the barren political landscape, post-Trump candidacy, do you really think that's true?

    I mean, Trump didn't have much more than money, name recognition, and connections when he ran in 2016 as a Republican. Interestingly, Bloomberg has also changed political affiliations - which in the modern era seems more like a positive than a negative.

    If nothing else, this will shake loose some of the low-hanging fruit in the Dem primaries.

    Yeah, I do. Bloomberg doesn't have the name recognition. No dumb TV show. The media aren't going to make him a circus act like they did with Trump. Bloomie doesn't sell in the newspapers. Not versus a Harris or Tulsi or Gay Mayor or Socialist or Scolding old Woman who wants to bankrupt the country with M4A.

    He really doesn't have charisma and the great central part of the party is not going to get behind him.

    I certainly wouldn't vote for him.
     

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    There are a lot of "desperate housewives" (aka Moms Demanding some Action) that seem to love his money though.

    I'll bet they won't vote for him. Not enough virtue to harvest there with a Billionaire. Bloomie's too rich and too capitalist to appeal to Democrats under 40.
     

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    Bloomberg has been the subject of sexual harassment lawsuits in the past, pretty misogynistic comments and attitudes. I wonder how that will play with the democrats base? Still, he can simply buy all the support and organization he wants, it's a dc deal.

    Money talks, the bigger it is the louder it talks.

    This is exactly why I said Bloomberg is too vulnerable to getting pantsed. First sign that Bloomberg might be a solid contender, the feminists will yank his shorts down around his ankles and expose his toxic masculinity. He just doesn't have the social justice cred that some of the other candidates have. I can see where moderate Democrats would go for a guy like Bloomberg. Maybe he would bleed voters from Biden. I just don't see the Democrats rallying behind him. Honestly, I kinda wish he'd run and win the nomination because I just don't see Democrats being able to energize the base to get out and vote for Bloomberg. Not that I want Trump for another 4 years, but he's better than any of the Democrats running, including Bloomberg.
     

    T.Lex

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    Of the current crop, is there any that has a meaningful chance to beat Trump? Bloomberg seems better positioned than any of them, in a traditional sense.

    Bernie and Biden have been at this game for too long. They're boring.

    But Bloomberg has the old-dude credibility.

    Ultimately, though, unless Mayor Pete really takes off in an Obama-esque way, these are all losers.
     
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