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    BugI02

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    Yes, perhaps you should think a bit harder and longer. Hillary won the popular vote despite efforts to make voting as difficult as possible by a number of repubican controlled state chambers.

    The whole of her numerical advantage arguably came mostly from California where vote harvesting is overtly legal, numerous jurisdictions have a greater than 100% turnout and the state fights tooth and nail not to have to obey the laws already on the books about maintaining accurate voting rolls. And a Democrat once again ignores the fact that Trump won fair and square according to the rules both sides have to play by
     

    Doug

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    Shouldn't a medical degree be just as important to diagnose Creepy Joe as just fine? In that case he is rendering a medical opinion just as much as the people he wants to criticize

    Not exactly.

    Joe is a Democrat and is innocent even if he is proven guilty.

    Unlike Republicans, who are guilty if there is no evidence and still guilty even after being proven innocent.
     

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    America doesn't have popular vote elections. Neither candidate campaigned on the premise of winning the popular vote.

    America has popular vote elections. You are attempting to put a fine point on an argument, but aren't specific enough to make your point credible.
     

    Alpo

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    The whole of her numerical advantage arguably came mostly from California where vote harvesting is overtly legal, numerous jurisdictions have a greater than 100% turnout and the state fights tooth and nail not to have to obey the laws already on the books about maintaining accurate voting rolls. And a Democrat once again ignores the fact that Trump won fair and square according to the rules both sides have to play by

    California votes count. California is a majority liberal enclave and has been as far back as I can remember. "Yeah, but California" is not an argument worth beans. If California represented a swing state, we might have something to discuss. But we don't.

    Trump DID win fair and square.....but that wasn't the point being debated. Maybe you should rely less upon what you think was being talked about and actually follow the debate.
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    America has popular vote elections. You are attempting to put a fine point on an argument, but aren't specific enough to make your point credible.

    No, we literally don't. If voters went into an election knowing the person that won the popular vote would be President, the candidates would campaign completely differently... and I imagine turnout would be vastly more.

    Getting the most votes, as it stands, is 100% irrelevant... unless that's what mattered overall.
     

    MCgrease08

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    It's been sort of lost among all the CoronaVirus fervor, but the first 1-on-1 debate between Biden and Bernie is tonight at 8:00 pm.

    The bad news is that you have to tune into CNN if you want to watch. The good news is that they moved it to a closed studio with no audience, so you won't have to hear the seal clapping and moronic cheers of the crowd when the candidates talk about taking guns away or giving free healthcare to illegal aliens.
     

    Dr.Midnight

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    California votes count. California is a majority liberal enclave and has been as far back as I can remember. "Yeah, but California" is not an argument worth beans. If California represented a swing state, we might have something to discuss. But we don't.

    Trump DID win fair and square.....but that wasn't the point being debated. Maybe you should rely less upon what you think was being talked about and actually follow the debate.

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    If Gabbard was the democrat candidate for president, would you vote for her over Trump?

    If yer answer is "NO", then all the discussion above is just jaw-waggin and nonsense.
    No, I would not vote for her...she is not to friendly to gun owners. Nope, even though Trump was not "my guy" during the last election, he still got my vote.
     

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    No, we literally don't. If voters went into an election knowing the person that won the popular vote would be President, the candidates would campaign completely differently... and I imagine turnout would be vastly more.

    Getting the most votes, as it stands, is 100% irrelevant... unless that's what mattered overall.

    Governor: popular vote.
    Mayor: popular vote
    City Counsel: popular vote
    Referendums: popular vote.

    You need to be more precise in your definitions and use of adjectives, as I stated.

    In addition, it is a question of bragging rights. Why did Trump insist that millions of democrat votes were fraudulent?
     

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    Governor: popular vote.
    Mayor: popular vote
    City Counsel: popular vote
    Referendums: popular vote.

    You need to be more precise in your definitions and use of adjectives, as I stated.

    In addition, it is a question of bragging rights. Why did Trump insist that millions of democrat votes were fraudulent?

    Did it ever occur to you that Trump might be correct about fraudulent votes? He seemed to be dead nuts accurate when he claimed his campaign was being spied on.
     

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    Governor: popular vote.
    Mayor: popular vote
    City Counsel: popular vote
    Referendums: popular vote.

    You need to be more precise in your definitions and use of adjectives, as I stated.

    In addition, it is a question of bragging rights. Why did Trump insist that millions of democrat votes were fraudulent?

    This entire conversation was about Presidential nominees. I assumed people wouldn't think we were talking about local elections.
     

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    I didn't need to be a doctor to know when my grandpa started walking around the house with his junk hanging out, talking to Ted Williams, and crapping in the neighbors garden, that there was something a little bit wrong with him.


    I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. :dunno:

    In my house we call this behavior.... Wednesday.
    Besides, my neighbor told my to eat ****. Who's got the last laugh now.
     

    BugI02

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    America has popular vote elections. You are attempting to put a fine point on an argument, but aren't specific enough to make your point credible.

    America has 50 seperate popular vote elections, and then the results of each govern the electoral college. That is a far cry from a direct national popular vote, which is currently precluded by the Constitution despite the NPVIC's attempts to do an end run around that
     

    BugI02

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    California votes count. California is a majority liberal enclave and has been as far back as I can remember. "Yeah, but California" is not an argument worth beans. If California represented a swing state, we might have something to discuss. But we don't.

    Trump DID win fair and square.....but that wasn't the point being debated. Maybe you should rely less upon what you think was being talked about and actually follow the debate.

    You were saying Hitlary won the popular vote as if that mattered for something, so I merely pointed out having a popular vote advantage ain't no big thang
     

    BugI02

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    Governor: popular vote.
    Mayor: popular vote
    City Counsel: popular vote
    Referendums: popular vote.

    [State level, State's rights. They are (largely) free to conduct their own affairs as they wish. Another hallmark of the federalism that underpins the EC]

    You need to be more precise in your definitions and use of adjectives, as I stated.

    In addition, it is a question of bragging rights. Why did Trump insist that millions of democrat votes were fraudulent?

    [Uhhh... because it's true. Prove me wrong]
     
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