The CZickness III

[churchmouse]

Range day maybe? Either that or it could be a tough day at the company. If that's the case, hopefully they can do a range day soon to reduce the work induced stress.

Just confirmed Thursday with the Wizard.

 

[88E30M50]

I did a quick range trip this morning with the 40P. Overall, it is really nice, but I still got two failures to chamber a round. One was on slide release and I may have walked the slide a bit, but the other was during a string. I really think it's looking like a tired recoil spring. The brass was being tossed about 15 to 20 feet back to the right, which supports the tired recoil spring idea. I think I'll cut a full size spring today to give that a try.

That is one seriously sweet gun though. I regret not doing the RRK on it while I had it apart. The decocker CZs are not the easiest guns to assemble. It sure makes me appreciate the simplicity of the 1911 and says a lot about the Wizard's steadiness of hand. As I get older, I'm developing more of a shake than I've had and it really shows itself doing work like this. I'm only 53, so can only imagine what it will be like when I'm ancient like CM and our other retirees.

 

[churchmouse]

I did a quick range trip this morning with the 40P. Overall, it is really nice, but I still got two failures to chamber a round. One was on slide release and I may have walked the slide a bit, but the other was during a string. I really think it's looking like a tired recoil spring. The brass was being tossed about 15 to 20 feet back to the right, which supports the tired recoil spring idea. I think I'll cut a full size spring today to give that a try.

That is one seriously sweet gun though. I regret not doing the RRK on it while I had it apart. The decocker CZs are not the easiest guns to assemble. It sure makes me appreciate the simplicity of the 1911 and says a lot about the Wizard's steadiness of hand. As I get older, I'm developing more of a shake than I've had and it really shows itself doing work like this. I'm only 53, so can only imagine what it will be like when I'm ancient like CM and our other retirees.

Hey......I can hear you OK......

My hands do not shake but my vision and patience get tested on occasion.

 

[wtburnette]

I did a quick range trip this morning with the 40P. Overall, it is really nice, but I still got two failures to chamber a round. One was on slide release and I may have walked the slide a bit, but the other was during a string. I really think it's looking like a tired recoil spring. The brass was being tossed about 15 to 20 feet back to the right, which supports the tired recoil spring idea. I think I'll cut a full size spring today to give that a try.

That is one seriously sweet gun though. I regret not doing the RRK on it while I had it apart. The decocker CZs are not the easiest guns to assemble. It sure makes me appreciate the simplicity of the 1911 and says a lot about the Wizard's steadiness of hand. As I get older, I'm developing more of a shake than I've had and it really shows itself doing work like this. I'm only 53, so can only imagine what it will be like when I'm ancient like CM and our other retirees.

I didn't get a chance to shoot the 40P as much as I would have liked yesterday, but I did have some issues with it after running around 75 rounds through it, I could feel a difference. Once I hit around 100 rounds, I could feel how slowly the slide was chambering each round. I never had a complete failure, where I had to tap the back of the slide, but there were a couple of times when I started to tap it, only to have it slide into battery before I could. Even tried using 165gr ammo, which was supposed to be better about not causing the problem. but it still had the slow into battery issue. I will say that 165gr is some hot stuff. Could tell a bit of a difference between it and the standard 180gr ammo.

 

[churchmouse]

I didn't get a chance to shoot the 40P as much as I would have liked yesterday, but I did have some issues with it after running around 75 rounds through it, I could feel a difference. Once I hit around 100 rounds, I could feel how slowly the slide was chambering each round. I never had a complete failure, where I had to tap the back of the slide, but there were a couple of times when I started to tap it, only to have it slide into battery before I could. Even tried using 165gr ammo, which was supposed to be better about not causing the problem. but it still had the slow into battery issue. I will say that 165gr is some hot stuff. Could tell a bit of a difference between it and the standard 180gr ammo.

Getting gummed up....????

 

[wtburnette]

Getting gummed up....????

What I've read over in the CZ forums is that it tends to occur once the gun has "warmed up". Typically the first few mags never seem to have any issues and this is what I have noticed. After half dozen magazines or so, back to back, the issue starts to show up. I can feel a difference in the way the gun feels when it's starting to get to that point. I tested the old magazines I got with the gun, the new one I just got from Greg Cote and they all did the same thing once I got to ~100 rounds through it. This is typical of what I would see from the stock 40P that I sold 88 and consistent with what I'd read in the CZ forums. I've cleaned both guns prior to taking them to the range and experiencing the issue, though I'm fairly new to firearms so it's possible I'm missing something. I've been using the TW25B grease that Sig ships with their guns and have had no issues on other guns. I might try just using standard gun oil on the rails the next time I go to the range though, to see if there's any noticeable difference.

 

[88E30M50]

That's interesting. I was using a bit of Brian Enos's Slide Glide this morning but did not break the 50 round mark on this trip. I know that my Compact 75B seemed to be sensitive to what I put on the rails. When I tried FrogLube, it started to malfunction when the rails were gummy feeling. Maybe regular oil will reduce the drag a bit.

 

[wtburnette]

That's interesting. I was using a bit of Brian Enos's Slide Glide this morning but did not break the 50 round mark on this trip. I know that my Compact 75B seemed to be sensitive to what I put on the rails. When I tried FrogLube, it started to malfunction when the rails were gummy feeling. Maybe regular oil will reduce the drag a bit.

Certainly can't hurt to try. I'll clean it this week and take it with me again on Sunday. I have another 100 rounds of Blazer Brass 180gr and 50 rounds of Speer Lawman 165gr still to use.

 

[bjenkins]

Hey......I can hear you OK......

My hands do not shake but my vision and patience get tested on occasion.

Hahahahahaha

 

[IndyGlockMan]

CZ75 Stainless Limited Edition, CZ P-01 OD Green - AR15.COM

 

[churchmouse]

I run an engine assembly lube on all of my guns in critical high stress areas like slides.
Permatex Ultra slick. It is a red Moly based lube and it is the absolute best stuff I have used.....ever.

 

[churchmouse]

I think my custom build just took a right turn in calibers.
10mm might be the way.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

I run an engine assembly lube on all of my guns in critical high stress areas like slides.
Permatex Ultra slick. It is a red Moly based lube and it is the absolute best stuff I have used.....ever.

I started using it on your recommendation. Great stuff, CM!

 

[churchmouse]

I started using it on your recommendation. Great stuff, CM!

It actually changes the way the slide acts. It feels and sounds different. Butter smooth.

I was looking for something beyond the tacticool Frog Lube Bravo Sierra offered up by so many different manf.
I was sitting at my bench and saw the bottle of assembly lube that has been a mainstay in the mouse motor shop for years. I put some in a syringe that is for this viscosity liquids and applied it to the slide/frame contact points on a Stainless 1911 I was finishing up.....Holy mother. Been using is ever since.

 

[wtburnette]

CZ75 Stainless Limited Edition, CZ P-01 OD Green - AR15.COM

Decent price on a beautiful pistol! I'm very tempted, but I'm really trying not to spend any money until I see what BF deals can be had this year. Another 1911 is pretty likely!

 

[churchmouse]

Woke up thinking about my P07. That is just

 

[88E30M50]

Morning folks.

I think my custom build just took a right turn in calibers.
10mm might be the way.

Now that is an interesting turn. I had a chance to fondle AllenM's Fusion based custom compact 10mm 1911 this weekend and it's been on my mind ever since. For a completely custom gun, it would be hard to find a better subject.

CZ75 Stainless Limited Edition, CZ P-01 OD Green - AR15.COM

Some day, one of these will make it's way home with me. Some day.

 

[wtburnette]

Morning folks.

Some day, one of these will make it's way home with me. Some day.

Same here. I love the stainless 75B's!

Morning all...

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

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[wtburnette]

I'm really wanting to get another 1911. I know churchmouse doesn't like Sig Sauer 1911's, but I love my TacOps. There's a sale on a carry Scorpion that is very tempting (under $850 for a gun that sells for $100 - $200 more elsewhere). I'm trying my best to wait until BF, but not sure if I can hold out...