The (Current year) General Political/Salma Hayek discussion Thread Part V

[DoggyDaddy]

I watched a documentary once where your performance on a video game predicted how well you would do in the military. If you made high score you got drafted!

The draft ended in 1973... "Pong" was invented in 1972. So they didn't have much time to do that evaluation for purposes of the draft.

 

[Brad69]

This was just one video game in a trailer park the kind you had to put quarters in I think this took place in the early 80’s.
I am not sure if it was drafted or just Shanghaied?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

This was just one video game in a trailer park the kind you had to put quarters in I think this took place in the early 80’s.
I am not sure if it was drafted or just Shanghaied?

So wait. The government would go to a trailer park, check their arcade shooting game to see who has the high score, and then draft them? Most kids list their high score as “ASS” or “POO” or something ridiculous like that. How did the government know who “ass” is to draft them?

 

[Brad69]

The guy that checked the high score waited till the kid was playing the machine and pulled up in a fancy car and lured him into the car.

 

[nonobaddog]

Sounds like 'The Last Starfighter'. They just haul him out into some other star system in space and recruit him.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

The guy that checked the high score waited till the kid was playing the machine and pulled up in a fancy car and lured him into the car.

LOL you sure he was being “drafted”?

 

[Brad69]

Get this the dude left a robot in place of the guy playing the video game!

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I want whatever you were smokin.

 

[Dr.Midnight]

Get this the dude left a robot in place of the guy playing the video game!

That robot was gay too.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I watched a documentary once where your performance on a video game predicted how well you would do in the military. If you made high score you got drafted!

You might be talking about Polybius!

Here are two great "documentary" format discussions on it.

[video=youtube;_7X6Yeydgyg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7X6Yeydgyg[/video]

[video=youtube;4gLypLPTljg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gLypLPTljg[/video]

 

[BugI02]

This post sent me down the rabbithole. You don't have to let your contrarian feelings make you defend Joe Biden.

But then... I tried finding the name of that guy around here that would start every post with "So, you're saying..." or some variant of it... implying people were saying things they hadn't said...

Couldn't remember his name. Did a search... only to find INGO says that a lot... and you might be the highest post count!

Nothing wrong with that, but starting to wonder if it's a key-phrase for contrarian argument-starting...

Anyway. That link was the first one I saw (via Twitter!). A much better version of the story came later:

Joe Biden calls game developers "little creeps" who make titles that "teach you how to kill"



So... no, I'm not saying that. I'm just pointing at Joe Biden trying to link playing video games with people killing people.

If you want to find small, specific examples of simulation programs used in training... you'll find some. I'm posting this knowing Biden has said things in the past against "violent video games".

Or, you could interpret the phrase as someone seeking further explaination of what on the surface appears to be a contradiction. You say Biden is joining dumb Republicans and the NRA in blaming games for violent behavior, the headline seems to say Biden is saying the games teach people how to kill. For the record, I think such games do likely desensitize people who have never killed to the idea of random killing but they have to be ****ed up in the head to want to go any further with it than that. But you must have spotted the similarities in the NZ mosque shooter's live feed to something, what would that be? False flag format or packaging the content for its intended audience?

I would have preferred that you had argued that games are not really simulations of much of anything and pretty useless except for 'entertainment', what with their lack of fealty to reality and the laws of physics. That first person shooter games with their excessive round capacity and glossing over such things as recoil and use of cover can no more teach you to clear a room/building than GTA or any racing game can teach you to drive fast. I have in the past thought that sport was becoming the new opiate of the masses, but I see the possibility gaming could leapfrog even that

 

[Ingomike]

I know nothing on the topic, but I do actually wonder how well certain types of gaming translates into something like drone operation.

We do know that doctors are using video games to sharpen their skills for surgery. We know pilots are even tested on video simulation games. We know that propaganda films are used to desensitize the population to atrocities. We know porn has been used to normalize many things.

So if we know those things work, why, other than the fact the video game industry is bigger money than Hollywood, do we assume they do not lead at least some people to violence? Based on the "studies" by phycologists, a field so leftist that I certainly do not trust them not to publish an agenda.

I belive it indisputable that video games can hone the skills for the kills and also believe it likely that in some it may give confidence to the maladjusted that perceive they are mistreated to lash out violently...

 

[nonobaddog]

We do know that doctors are using video games to sharpen their skills for surgery. We know pilots are even tested on video simulation games. We know that propaganda films are used to desensitize the population to atrocities. We know porn has been used to normalize many things.

So if we know those things work, why, other than the fact the video game industry is bigger money than Hollywood, do we assume they do not lead at least some people to violence? Based on the "studies" by phycologists, a field so leftist that I certainly do not trust them not to publish an agenda.

I belive it indisputable that video games can hone the skills for the kills and also believe it likely that in some it may give confidence to the maladjusted that perceive they are mistreated to lash out violently...

Those are good points. I always figured one had to be a little 'off' to be affected by video games and that may be true but there are enough people that are a little 'off' that it then could become a problem.
I used to play 'Tetris' a lot but it never developed into any urge to play with physical blocks of any type. But the way you have described this certainly makes me give it more consideration than I used to.

Incidentally they also use porn in medical schools to desensitize physicians to some of the unusual things they will see when lust goes wrong. It wouldn't be professional to burst out laughing or gagging.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Those are good points. I always figured one had to be a little 'off' to be affected by video games and that may be true but there are enough people that are a little 'off' that it then could become a problem.
I used to play 'Tetris' a lot but it never developed into any urge to play with physical blocks of any type. But the way you have described this certainly makes me give it more consideration than I used to.

Incidentally they also use porn in medical schools to desensitize physicians to some of the unusual things they will see when lust goes wrong. It wouldn't be professional to burst out laughing or gagging.

Ok, I’m gonna need a more in depth explanation.

 

[nonobaddog]

Formula 1 teams use some very expensive simulators to provide training a practice for the drivers. Ferrari has one that weighs 200 tons and can mimic a lot of motions of the car on each specific track even down to the bumps in the surface.

This is the Mercedes simulator room...

 

[actaeon277]

Some Democratic Candidates Are Being Treated Unfairly. Do We Care?

And it's okay to acknowledge this, too! The DNC and media is totally ****ing over candidates in favor of their chosen ones

Duh.
Of course.
Now bow down, Peasant!

 

[jamil]

We do know that doctors are using video games to sharpen their skills for surgery. We know pilots are even tested on video simulation games. We know that propaganda films are used to desensitize the population to atrocities. We know porn has been used to normalize many things.

So if we know those things work, why, other than the fact the video game industry is bigger money than Hollywood, do we assume they do not lead at least some people to violence? Based on the "studies" by phycologists, a field so leftist that I certainly do not trust them not to publish an agenda.

I belive it indisputable that video games can hone the skills for the kills and also believe it likely that in some it may give confidence to the maladjusted that perceive they are mistreated to lash out violently...

Sure. If you're playing games which could improve skills for surgery, and you're focusing on sharpening those skills, yeah. And, maybe playing FPS games will make people better shooters. Maybe paying racing games will make people better race car drivers. We're talking about intent here. There's no credible evidence that age appropriate video games make people want to harm people, though I might concede that playing certain video games may make them better at it if they decide to. But I seriously doubt they make people who didn't want to harm people before they played, want to harm people after they played.

But. I might also concede that some players may be violent idiots already, and perhaps they should stay away from video games that might trigger them. For example, the ********** in Honduras who cussed me out in broken English in a PM because I kept shooting the n00b in the face during a BF4 session. It was like 3 or 4 times in a row. And it wasn't that I'm all that good. It's just that he was even worse. I had no desire to physically harm him IRL. But I'm pretty sure he wanted to punch me in the face. He sure knew how to spell mother****er in English.

 

[nonobaddog]

Ok, I’m gonna need a more in depth explanation.

If you can imagine it, it has probably been done. People shove all sorts of things inside themselves. Sometimes the things get lost or stuck or break off or give them an electrical shock or even explode. When they figure out they have done enough internal damage they go to their doctor.

 

[KLB]

Sure. If you're playing games which could improve skills for surgery, and you're focusing on sharpening those skills, yeah. And, maybe playing FPS games will make people better shooters. Maybe paying racing games will make people better race car drivers. We're talking about intent here. There's no credible evidence that age appropriate video games make people want to harm people, though I might concede that playing certain video games may make them better at it if they decide to. But I seriously doubt they make people who didn't want to harm people before they played, want to harm people after they played.

But. I might also concede that some players may be violent idiots already, and perhaps they should stay away from video games that might trigger them. For example, the ********** in Honduras who cussed me out in broken English in a PM because I kept shooting the n00b in the face during a BF4 session. It was like 3 or 4 times in a row. And it wasn't that I'm all that good. It's just that he was even worse. I had no desire to physically harm him IRL. But I'm pretty sure he wanted to punch me in the face. He sure knew how to spell mother****er in English.

Please explain how using a mouse and keyboard or a controller translates to being able to better use a gun. I suppose these kids all know how to use swords like Samurai as well now.

There is absolutely no similarity between sitting on your ass staring at a screen and running around with a gun killing people.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1219391147199488000

AOC to billionaires:

To be ethical you need to give up control and power. So I don’t want your money as much as we want your power. The people, not me.