The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[BugI02]

Definitely in agreement

Not immune to displaying a bit of hypocrisy now and again, either.

 

[Fargo]

Definitely in agreement

Not immune to displaying a bit of hypocrisy now and again, either.

No one is...

 

[Fargo]

In other news, it appears the DOJ was illicitly using Hillary's foreign agent who claimed to be in contact with the FSB, even after he had been fired.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...e-dojs-bruce-ohr-would-insert-himself-ongoing

Will Mueller investigate the DOJ's potential collusion?

It still fascinates me the Special Prosecutor apparently has no interest investigating a presidential campaign paying a foreign national to reach out to Russian intelligence for assistance...

 

[BugI02]

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[BugI02]

In other news, it appears the DOJ was illicitly using Hillary's foreign agent who claimed to be in contact with the FSB, even after he had been fired.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...e-dojs-bruce-ohr-would-insert-himself-ongoing

Will Mueller investigate the DOJ's potential collusion?

It still fascinates me the Special Prosecutor apparently has no interest investigating a presidential campaign paying a foreign national to reach out to Russian intelligence for assistance...

Yesss. IIRC the justification for the Manafort prosecution as well as others are that their crimes were uncovered as part of the Trump investigation. The crimes of the Clinton factions are being uncovered in the same manner, you wouldn't think prosecution would be a jurisdictional or purview problem

 

[Fargo]

Yesss. IIRC the justification for the Manafort prosecution as well as others are that their crimes were uncovered as part of the Trump investigation. The crimes of the Clinton factions are being uncovered in the same manner, you wouldn't think prosecution would be a jurisdictional or purview problem

Using the FSB for campaign opposition research does seem a little more collusiony than lying on loan apps and filing incomplete tax returns...

The outgoing president's DOJ using that campaigns FSB connection as a source is even more interesting...

 

[Kutnupe14]

In other news, it appears the DOJ was illicitly using Hillary's foreign agent who claimed to be in contact with the FSB, even after he had been fired.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...e-dojs-bruce-ohr-would-insert-himself-ongoing

Will Mueller investigate the DOJ's potential collusion?

It still fascinates me the Special Prosecutor apparently has no interest investigating a presidential campaign paying a foreign national to reach out to Russian intelligence for assistance...

Well, we don't know if he has or hasn't.

 

[Fargo]

Well, we don't know if he has or hasn't.

Maybe all those grand jury subs to Podesta, Steele, Ohr, Clinton etc just haven't made the news, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Kobach beats the incumbent thanks to trump. November may be interesting

 

[nonobaddog]

I have even toyed with the idea of polling the suggestion of having shorthand icons we could include in our signatures - perhaps a black star for Trumpers, a red star for never Trump and a green star as for Trump but with reservations. It could probably save a lot of time and finger fatigue

I would suggest a Gold Star for Trumpers instead.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[mmpsteve]

You must be feeling better! Good on you, sir. Pretty girl. Nice hat

 

[Trigger Time]

Not even his anti-gun talk?

Oh sorry forgot that. I did criticize and was very pissed. He didnt know what the hell he was talking about I dont think or had the wrong people in his ear. Seems like it's been fixed. We will wait and see but I'm gonna hold anyone accountable on that issue

 

[Trigger Time]

She confuses me. Either you wanna dress like a skank or you wanna be fashionable but you cant be both.
That girl will cost you I guarentee it. That's the type of girl you tell your son not to date.

My daughter will never leave MY house dressed like that

 

[jamil]

Straw man alert. Your response did not address Kut's quote. Its almost like you didn't read it. Kut's addressing the "opposition" and who they are; the assertion was that it is a construct of the MSM. It isn't.

So, Bug, do YOU consider the media an enemy of the people?

I don't. There is a significant left bias, which is superseded only by the green bias. Bashing Trump draws eyeballs.

But, more importantly, they also get things right sometimes. ("Right" as in "correct.") Blind pigs and acorns, kinda, but to dismiss the MSM on EVERY SINGLE THING is as blind as accepting them on every little thing.

I consider dishonest/activist journalism an enemy of the people. On both sides. Not all journalists are activists, so I wouldn’t say that the media is the enemy of the people.

 

[jamil]

That's a conversation all to itself. The president gave us a figure of 200 remains to be returned. We got back 55. So where did that 200 figure come from? Did North Korea punish us for something, or did the WH just make that number up? Further, HOW do we know exactly who those remains belong to? We got 55 sets, and ONE dog tag. For all we know, North Korea has stuffed those boxes with gulag victims, kindnapees, soldiers from either side, or whomever. I'm not exactly one to believe North Korea to be an honest broker, and I'm completely without confidence in this administration calling it out (indicating naivety).

I wouldn’t call it naivety. It’s a show by a showman.

 

[jamil]

I don't disagree with you at all. My point goes to how to respond to it.

Reponding to it with: "The glorious uncriticizable Donald shall continue to kick all you stupid asses forever and ever amen, because you are deranged idiots. " sets us up for a return of the favor down the road.

Conversely, acknowledging when he ACTUALLY screws up actually takes the wind out of the MSM's histrionics.

Finger pointing and mocking are a poor substitute for an actual rational discussion. For whatever reason, it seems to me like a bunch of people think that because the MSM gave up on any sort of integrity, that makes it OK to do the same thing back.

Well, not to mention it encourages Trump to continue saying/doing stupid ****. Make the praise/condemnation conditional. Instread, it appears that many of the ardent trumpers react to legitimate criticism of Trump as TDS. If you criticize Trump at all it’s like you **** on him.

 

[Birds Away]

It's just so hard to find the truth these days. When the DOJ, FBI and all the intelligence services seem to be actively operating against the elected President we have a crisis on our hands. With the MSM actively supporting this group it becomes impossible to get to the truth of what's going on. It is disheartening and even more so when intelligent people turn a blind eye to it.

 

[Hawkeye]

Well, not to mention it encourages Trump to continue saying/doing stupid ****. Make the praise/condemnation conditional. Instread, it appears that many of the ardent trumpers react to legitimate criticism of Trump as TDS. If you criticize Trump at all it’s like you **** on him.

Actually, consider that it may be enough that the media, Dems and ANTIFA are all extremely vocal over everything and nothing.


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[jamil]

Actually, consider that it may be enough that the media, Dems and ANTIFA are all extremely vocal over everything and nothing.

Yes. They are. But maybe if we could openly call aout trump when he does stupid stuff, instead of forcing cheezy excuses, like, “it’s all part of his master plan” Trump would at least adjust his behavior a little. But excusing all that is like a positive feedback loop for him. It just encourages him to do more of it. Of course the media has been extremely unfair to him. But that shouldn’t provide shadows for him to continue the legitimately dumb stuff.