The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

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    Kutnupe14

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    Because of his conclusions on reading the Mueller report or his constitutional conservative position on governance?

    Nah, because he won't eat cheetos. The Trump GOP don't care about ideology as much as they do identity.... cult of personality.
     

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    ArcadiaGP

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    BugI02

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    Well, the conference is ostensibly about the censorship of conservative voices on social media. One would expect testimony from actual victims of the behavior, not Jim Acosta
     

    jwamplerusa

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    Where does this end?

    US government debt as a share of GDP.

    1979: 31%
    1989: 50%
    1999: 58%
    2009: 83%
    Now: 108%

    Well, based on history, economic collapse and hyperinflation. Think Weimar Republic, Hungary, etc.

    I don't want to live through that, and I don't want my children too either.

    Interesting part is, I don't think the government's that create those conditions ever survive them.
     

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    Where does this end?

    US government debt as a share of GDP.

    1979: 31%
    1989: 50%
    1999: 58%
    2009: 83%
    Now: 108%


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    First, note a couple of data points. The most recent GDP data they can possibly have is for 2018 and I believe that is still subject to revision. So that year the debt to GDP ratio actually went down vs the 2017 ratio which Trump did not have full control over. The following ratio is projected to be slightly higher (0.1%) and all the rest are wild-assed guesses with similar validity to climate predictions. If GDP comes in higher than expert estimates (like it has up until now) those ratios will adjust downward

    So how does Trump's actual record play out? Obama gets re-elected (years after the great recession excuse is viable) and the next year the ratio spikes 2% (20 times worse than Trump). It plateaus for two years and then spikes another 1.9% (almost 5 times the projected spike in Trump's next two years) and if you look at Obama's last four years and the rise in the ratio of 3.7% between 2012 and 2016, that is nearly 6 times the rise projected for a similar period for Trump. I have excluded Obama's first few years because they would only make him look worse and give rise to the canard that he was forced to spend all that money by what happened on Bush's watch

    It would seem we're in good hands




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    And to give credi where it's due, Obama would seem to have been presiding over a marked decrease in the rate at which the ratio was growing, but also note that that leveling off has only continued under Trump
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    what, another "metoo" accusation falls flat on its face

    video shows nothing of the sort

    https://twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/1149156938955071488

    This staffer said Trump grabbed her by the shoulders and forcibly kissed her at a campaign event. She is now suing Trump for "violating norms of decency."

    Someone else captured this video, just released tonight.

    The instance seems to have been greatly mischaracterized.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    A new gem by the president. How many of the Trump faithful agree with the below statement.

    “See, I don’t think that the mainstream media is free speech either because it’s so crooked. It’s so dishonest. So to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad. To me, that’s very dangerous speech, and you become angry at it. But that’s not free speech."

    -DJT

    Is he really this stupid to not understand what free speech is?
     

    Kutnupe14

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    He's described TDS to a tee, which is leading to suppression of free speech all around the country.

    Let me ask you a question. Let's say you ask to plug in a microphone, at my house, to give a speech and I allow it. If I find the things you say distasteful, while you're on your soapbox, and unplug your mic, am I suppressing your freedom of speech?
     

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    If your house was America and the speech was pro-Trump; why yes, yes you would be

    Edit: Same would be true if your house was Youtube or Facebook or Twitter and the speech was pro-Trump and it was disallowed on that basis
     
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