It happened on his watch, so he owns it. Your and my 2A rights are less today, than the day Obama left office. If the president knows how embraced their 2A is amongst his supporters, you’d think he’d have a bit more attention concerning it.
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It happened on his watch, so he owns it. Your and my 2A rights are less today, than the day Obama left office. If the president knows how embraced their 2A is amongst his supporters, you’d think he’d have a bit more attention concerning it.
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Most trump supports don’t vote early. I don’t. I’ll vote on Election Day. Careful, that’s why everyone thought Hillary had it in the bag last time.
Trump owns it just like he owns Vindman. By this logic Obama was responsible for targeting conservative groups through the IRS. When you show me Trump hired the guy doing it, he will own it. Until then this is beneath you...
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All y'all (or some of you) better hope Clarence Thomas is eating his Wheaties.
If you get the Blue Wave you want - and he dies - your pistol brace plus the gun it's attached to will be worth less than a Maga Hat.
If you get the Blue Wave you want - and he dies - your pistol brace plus the gun it's attached to will be worth less than a Maga Hat.
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Being worked on at the moment. This has triggered a political **** storm, and got many congressmen and gun rights organizations involved. It even has Bill Barr involved now. And the message from everyone is clear that the ATF manufacturing laws and seeking criminal consequences for people must end immediately.
I imagine it's low on the priority list for Trump when you have a supreme court justice nomination to get through, an election, and fighting covid with your family.
We do need to honestly admit that Trump has his fingerprints all over the brace nonsense. I doubt he prompted the ATF to start taking action recently, but this all kicked off with the bump stock debacle.
Trump telling the ATF to essentially rewrite the definition of a machine gun opened the door to all of this crap. It's OK to admit that and criticize him for it.
He's still better than Biden on 2A, but he's chipping away like all of the rest.
Do we as clear thinking (well, most of us anyway)adults truly believe the ATF needs any nudge or OK's to go after possible revenue streams and fees/fines and redefining existing laws outside the proper channels. No, just like any alphabet agency they run amok.
So then why enable them even more? Why proactively tell them to find a way to ban bump stocks without any legislation?
It's OK to be critical of Trump's handling of the bump stock debacle. When the call to ban bump stocks came up he could have said "no, go pound sand." But he didn't. So of course it was going to lead to more of the same.
I still believe that the bumpstock deal was a Solomon esque decision to me. I believe republicans were about to cave and really let the democrats pass some big time gun control. One needs to step back and look at the political landscape at the time, it was not good for our side. The move by Trump short circuited the gun control drive and the fuse was snipped giving time for emotions to subside and with them the momentum for gun control.
You do realize, it wasn't even the proper ATF who made the determination for that ban, right? It was a Boston field agent.
We'll have to see what comes out of it, but this seems like something they'll reverse course on quickly.
Blaming Trump for it is quite a leap of logic.
Something was getting banned one way or another, in my view of what was going on at the time. Trump going after bumpstocks took the wind out of their sails to draft AWB 2.0.
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You missed my point I see. Maybe I should re-post in the morning after some fresh
I agree and have said he has stumbled here. But what would you do about it.
Precisely.
How long had Trump been in office. He was assailed from all sides. Not saying I agree in the least.
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