The 2020 General Election Thread

[Kutnupe14]

Here’s the catch 22 concerning voter fraud. It’s attempted, but as far as we know unsuccessful. An indication that the devices in place, to prevent it, are adequate. If it is successful, then we won’t ever know about it. Soooo?

 

[JettaKnight]

Here’s the catch 22 concerning voter fraud. It’s attempted, but as far as we know unsuccessful. An indication that the devices in place, to prevent it, are adequate. If it is successful, then we won’t ever know about it. Soooo?

So it's going to continue to be a boogeyman?





PS - good to see you around here.

 

[actaeon277]

Other examples that have been shown,
Turn down votes that don't have a post mark
Turn down votes with an illegible post mark
Turn down votes that missed the deadline
etc.


The, because so many votes are thrown out, the cry is raised that the election is ILLEGITIMATE

 

[Tombs]

Here’s the catch 22 concerning voter fraud. It’s attempted, but as far as we know unsuccessful. An indication that the devices in place, to prevent it, are adequate. If it is successful, then we won’t ever know about it. Soooo?

Then how did we find out about all the cases in New Jersey?

 

[JettaKnight]

Why is the assumption about "stealing" the ballots from conservatives?

What about "stuffing" the ballots with: people on the rolls that moved, or dead, or don't vote?

I recall hearing all those stories back when I was kid listening to Rush. Is there anything recent there, or just akin to WWII veterans forever hating the Red Cross because of charging for donuts once, in one place, at one time?

 

[JettaKnight]

Other examples that have been shown,
Turn down votes that don't have a post mark
Turn down votes with an illegible post mark
Turn down votes that missed the deadline
etc.


The, because so many votes are thrown out, the cry is raised that the election is ILLEGITIMATE

Hanging chads 2.0

 

[actaeon277]

I recall hearing all those stories back when I was kid listening to Rush. Is there anything recent there, or just akin to WWII veterans forever hating the Red Cross because of charging for donuts once, in one place, at one time?

Because they were all just shown to be alive and well in New Jersey. I think it was New Jersey.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/nyregion/nj-election-mail-voting-fraud.html
New Local Election Ordered in N.J. After Mail-In Voter Fraud Charges


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143
[h=1]1 in 5 mail ballots rejected in botched NYC primary[/h]New York City expanded mail-in voting, but rejected 84,000 ballots in June

 

[jamil]

Because they were all just shown to be alive and well in New Jersey. I think it was New Jersey.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/nyregion/nj-election-mail-voting-fraud.html
New Local Election Ordered in N.J. After Mail-In Voter Fraud Charges


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143
1 in 5 mail ballots rejected in botched NYC primary

New York City expanded mail-in voting, but rejected 84,000 ballots in June

Hey, election officials have political preferences too.

 

[Tombs]

Hanging chads 2.0

And why would any sane person want to even allow for that situation to happen again?

 

[printcraft]

Do not ask for whom the chad hangs, the chad hangs for thee.

Trying to bull**** your way to a win is nothing new for democrats.

 

[actaeon277]

And why would any sane person want to even allow for that situation to happen again?

If someone gets into power due to a "problem", why would they fix the problem?

 

[actaeon277]

Democrats spend 45 million on adds in areas where their polls are sinking, because of the "mostly peaceful protests"

[video=youtube;HYe9ekGEFXI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYe9ekGEFXI[/video]

 

[Tombs]

 

[JettaKnight]

And why would any sane person want to even allow for that situation to happen again?

It's cute that you think sanity has any sway in America today.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Did I see that right? Did the president actually tell people to break the law by attempting to vote twice? Geez.

 

[Tombs]

Did I see that right? Did the president actually tell people to break the law by attempting to vote twice? Geez.

Maybe I misunderstood it, but I thought it was a trial run? Therefor testing the trial would make sense.

 

[T.Lex]

Can someone point to a state system that doesn't have the fraud-control mechanisms that would thwart or at least hinder the scenarios that are causing all the angst?

Like, California has been mentioned. The problem is, those processes were in place but Republicans didn't like the outcome. There wasn't anything fraudulent or illegal about that election (at least nothing has been proven). "Ballot harvesting" may be cringey, but those are registered voters placing their vote. That's how the system was designed.

All those years lamenting the lack of voter turnout, and then complaining when more people vote seems hypocritical.

This country has been skewing more liberal with each generation basically since its founding. At least since the Civil War. (The New Deal was a huge leap in that direction.) At one level, this really isn't surprising.

 

[jamil]

Can someone point to a state system that doesn't have the fraud-control mechanisms that would thwart or at least hinder the scenarios that are causing all the angst?

Like, California has been mentioned. The problem is, those processes were in place but Republicans didn't like the outcome. There wasn't anything fraudulent or illegal about that election (at least nothing has been proven). "Ballot harvesting" may be cringey, but those are registered voters placing their vote. That's how the system was designed.

All those years lamenting the lack of voter turnout, and then complaining when more people vote seems hypocritical.

This country has been skewing more liberal with each generation basically since its founding. At least since the Civil War. (The New Deal was a huge leap in that direction.) At one level, this really isn't surprising.

Gerrymandering is legal too. Maybe we could all agree that designing systems to favor a political party should be illegal.

 

[JTScribe]

Can someone point to a state system that doesn't have the fraud-control mechanisms that would thwart or at least hinder the scenarios that are causing all the angst?

Like, California has been mentioned. The problem is, those processes were in place but Republicans didn't like the outcome. There wasn't anything fraudulent or illegal about that election (at least nothing has been proven). "Ballot harvesting" may be cringey, but those are registered voters placing their vote. That's how the system was designed.

All those years lamenting the lack of voter turnout, and then complaining when more people vote seems hypocritical.

This country has been skewing more liberal with each generation basically since its founding. At least since the Civil War. (The New Deal was a huge leap in that direction.) At one level, this really isn't surprising.

Washington Governor Dino Rossi and Senator Norm Coleman concur.

 

[T.Lex]

Gerrymandering is legal too. Maybe we could all agree that designing systems to favor a political party should be illegal.

Actual gerrymandering isn't. That's why the courts get involved and sometimes re-draw lines.

Getting as close as you can to gerrymandering without crossing over is legal. Kinda like every other thing that's illegal.

Fundamentally, the problem is that designing systems to produce votes in a representative democracy is REALLY hard. There are checks and balances, though.

Washington Governor Dino Rossi and Senator Norm Coleman concur.

As does Donald Trump.