The 2017 General Political discussion thread, Part 2!

[GodFearinGunTotin]

And LOUDER...It gets much LOUDER....

You guys have never been to a Thanksgiving dinner at my in laws' house. I'd wager they could hold their own when it comes to loud and talking over one another. It was something to behold.

 

[Kutnupe14]

We will see what actually gets paid back. I know what was initially said. Those things can change when the boss leans on you.

I take it you finally decided to look more in-depth, and know no numbers were made up, and that he's not paying for all the expenses of the flights he flew on?

 

[olhorseman]

From the article I posted:

"Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price released a statement Thursday indicating that he would personally pay for the cost of his seat on the charter flights that he took while conducting official government business."

"Politico previously reported that Price had taken upward of 26 charter flights while in office, at a cost of nearly $400,000."

"The taxpayers won’t pay a dime for my seat on those planes,” Price said in a statement, according to Politico."

Looks pretty clear to me. The only thing I see wrong is every number you've posted. He says he's going to pay for every charter flight he took while conducting official government business. If he's paying for the ones he took while on official business, I think it goes without saying that he's also paying for the ones when he wasn't on official business.

It sounds like a pretty sweet deal for Price. Charter a 20, 30 or whatever size private jet and only pay for one seat regardless of whether there are other passengers. I'd like to get this deal.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Yep, paying $50K on a $1M tab. That's setting a millionaire straight. He might not be able to eat out this week at his favorite country club.

That's the rules. You reimburse commercial rates when you fly private. I learned that from the last admin

 

[Kutnupe14]

That's the rules. You reimburse commercial rates when you fly private. I learned that from the last admin

Kinda swampish, don't you think? if you run on draining the swamp, and consider the last admin "the swamp," you'd think you'd try avoid this kind of stuff.

 

[hoosierdoc]

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...lfstream-jets-for-her-congressional-air-force

 

[AmmoManAaron]

It sounds like a pretty sweet deal for Price. Charter a 20, 30 or whatever size private jet and only pay for one seat regardless of whether there are other passengers. I'd like to get this deal.

I agree, it's shady. I hope that Trump leaning on him about it will result in him paying it ALL back, rather than just a portion. The argument over the initial number of flights and what was, or was not, business related will fall by the wayside if ALL means ALL. That's the appearance he's giving now and I expect his feet to be held to the fire on it.

I take it you finally decided to look more in-depth, and know no numbers were made up, and that he's not paying for all the expenses of the flights he flew on?

You give yourself too much credit. See above. The controversy you were trying to stoke goes away if Trump leaning on him is successful, which is the appearance as of now...which was the point of the article that I posted. No crying about what was, or was not, a business flight if he pays the FULL cost.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Waiting on ammoman...
I'll be impressed if he admits he was mistaken. For some reason, that's an amazingly hard thing to do for some folks.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Kinda swampish, don't you think? if you run on draining the swamp, and consider the last admin "the swamp," you'd think you'd try avoid this kind of stuff.

Yes, absolutely. That's why trump is pissed

 

[Kutnupe14]

I agree, it's shady. I hope that Trump leaning on him about it will result in him paying it ALL back, rather than just a portion. The argument over the initial number of flights and what was, or was not, business related will fall by the wayside if ALL means ALL. That's the appearance he's giving now and I expect his feet to be held to the fire on it.



You give yourself too much credit. See above. The controversy you were trying to stoke goes away if Trump leaning on him is successful, which is the appearance as of now...which was the point of the article that I posted. No crying about what was, or was not, a business flight if he pays the FULL cost.

"IF"

Sooo... the following is wrong?

Earlier you said it was a $300,000 tab. Or did you conveniently want to forget that? See below.

The article I posted says Price is going to pay $400,000, which is $100K MORE than what even YOU say he owes. Your numbers are lies.

I know exactly what they are. They are you pulling numbers out of your behind to try and create a controversy where there isn't one. Price will be paying everything that he owes. Why do you have a problem with that?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Yes, absolutely. That's why trump is pissed

Honestly, I think he's pissed they got caught. Mnuchin was doing the same thing. Apparently people that know them, say that this is odd for these guys to do. I mean the president has kinda made it the culture of the WH to Jetset. These guys may have been thinking "if he can do it..." not recognizing that that if the got caught DT would back them.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Vice President Mike Pence’s outside lawyer met privately with special counsel Robert Mueller at Pence’s request last summer, according to a person familiar with the meeting.
The meeting, which has not been previously reported, was held at Pence’s request to express his willingness to cooperate with Mueller’s investigation, the person said.

Pence sent lawyer to meet with Mueller over the summer - POLITICO

VP Pence is making sure that if someone goes down, it ain't gonna be him.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Pence sent lawyer to meet with Mueller over the summer - POLITICO

VP Pence is making sure that if someone goes down, it ain't gonna be him.

What? This is what "fully cooperating with the investigation" looks like

and it should end immediately by the way. Just stupid. You put 10 Hillary supporter prosecutors on a case to investigate a person looking for a crime. That's not how our justice system works. That's how a coup works

 

[AmmoManAaron]

"IF"

Sooo... the following is wrong?

No, as I said "which is the appearance as of now"

The "IF" is there because it hasn't happened yet.

Also, as I said, we will have to wait and see. I don't like wasting taxpayer $$$ either, but Trump deserves a chance to correct him and Price deserves a chance to make good on his promise. Time will tell, but I choose to operate on the newest information rather than continue to try and stir stuff up over things that have the appearance of being outdated.

 

[ghitch75]

Pence sent lawyer to meet with Mueller over the summer - POLITICO

VP Pence is making sure that if someone goes down, it ain't gonna be him.

are you sure DD is not setting next you telling what to type?

 

[AmmoManAaron]

The left caught lying again.

Librarian who rejected Melania Trump's Dr. Seuss books dressed as 'Cat in the Hat'

The Massachusetts elementary school librarian who rejected Dr. Seuss books donated by First Lady Melania Trump because the publication’s artwork contained “racist mockery,” was previously photographed dressed as the Cat in the Hat and holding a “Green Eggs and Ham” themed breakfast.

Librarian who rejected Melania Trump's Dr. Seuss books dressed as 'Cat in the Hat' | Fox News

 

[AmmoManAaron]

But Russia!!!! ZOMG!!!

"State officials are punching holes in recent claims by the federal government that their election systems were targeted last year by hackers believed to be Russian agents."

Holes punched in latest Russia hacking claims | Fox News

 

[Kutnupe14]

No, as I said "which is the appearance as of now"

The "IF" is there because it hasn't happened yet.

Also, as I said, we will have to wait and see. I don't like wasting taxpayer $$$ either, but Trump deserves a chance to correct him and Price deserves a chance to make good on his promise. Time will tell, but I choose to operate on the newest information rather than continue to try and stir stuff up over things that have the appearance of being outdated.

No, he does not. He should be gone.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

No, he does not. He should be gone.

If he deserves to be gone, then why was nothing done about Pelosi? Why wasn't she booted from her position in leadership or at least censured? Fair is fair.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Oh snap!

The left caught lying again.

Librarian who rejected Melania Trump's Dr. Seuss books dressed as 'Cat in the Hat'

The Massachusetts elementary school librarian who rejected Dr. Seuss books donated by First Lady Melania Trump because the publication’s artwork contained “racist mockery,” was previously photographed dressed as the Cat in the Hat and holding a “Green Eggs and Ham” themed breakfast.

Librarian who rejected Melania Trump's Dr. Seuss books dressed as 'Cat in the Hat' | Fox News