The 2017 General Political discussion thread, Part 2!

[Birds Away]

The left likes Kasich because he is closer to them than to conservatives.

 

[Dddrees]

Kasich is weak and low energy. He would make a disappointing swing manager at Wendy's. He is not rational, some people just think he is "safe" or whatever.

Well everybody has an opinion.

 

[Trigger Time]

It's says a great deal about the community that I've been allowed to stay, Huge compliment, please take it that way, I don't support everything that Obama did. Hell I didn't even follow what he did nearly as much as I've watched what's going on now. Just didn't do it. I've said this many times but my current frustration is over a guy I find extremely objectionable and I disagree with a good number of his policies.

Believe me I would have much rather voted for more rational Republican like Kasich. Just would. As far as some one in the military we are people too. You'll find through history just because one is in the military doesn't make them either a Democrat or a Republican.

Whether I change people's minds or not is not always the point. Seems like some would like to make some of these discussions into a contest where agreement with their point is the only acceptable result. That just isn't the case a good part of the time. Discussion often results in disagreement and that's just the way life is. Was the discussion then pointless? No no it was not. For me I've actually gained a greater appreciation for the other side. This in itself means a great deal to me. Sorry if that doesn't for you but I think it ought too. I certainly didn't find the discussion I had with the gentleman on Universal Background Checks to be pointless even though I haven't made up my mind yet. I found it to be quite educational for me because I had yet to be able to have a civil discourse over this issue until then.

Kasich is NOT a Republican. I've told you this before. We didn't like him at all because he is a Democrat in Republican clothing

 

[Trigger Time]

Which two sides? Trump supporters, never-trumpers, Republicans, Libertarians, Democrats, libertarians, progressives, conservatives

There are a lot more than two sides represented here.

Not democrats. That was my point. Yeah I know there are a lot of people who don't like Trump but the majority here do. The ones that don't always are loud because they feel the need to cry about it constantly but they aren't the majority. Like liberals lol

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Here's something "real" to discuss, the President's speech last night on Afghanistan. I found it to be "spot on". Though I would like to know more of the details, so would our enemies. OpSec comes first.

Telegraphing dates for withdrawal, troop strength, etc was the epitome of foolishness and stupidity. Trump is obviously listening to Mattis and his advisors.

News from The Associated Press

 

[Alpo]

98% to 2% yep both side are here now LOL
No one is coming to your side. Mods and others are nice to you because they either have to,be or they are just nice when they say "he offers a different perspective.
When actually MOST of the members just see it as trolling and don't want to hear the b.s. that's coming from you. Trust me it doesn't chamge anyone's perspective except make us feel vindicated that MOST of the left are just bat **** crazy and trying to ruin our country. Ruin it!
You were in the military 20 years and you like Obama. For me that's the most shocking part about you.
I'll add that when you aren't talking about politics I'm sure younare a.nice guy. But man you don't fit in here in tge politics section. At all. I'm sure you'll stay just to keep people pissed off. So I'd recommend you get out of only the political threads and contribute and learn from the rest of the site which is about guns more than polotics. I understand how it is to be lonely or bored and finally find people to be able to interact with but usually people seek out like minded people. You should go over to one of the lefty forums and you'll be loved

Poppycock. You see the world in monolithic blocks. I am absolutely sure that most here are more nuanced than that. At a certain point, you have to wonder whether the laughter is with you or at you.

 

[KLB]

Here's something "real" to discuss, the President's speech last night on Afghanistan. I found it to be "spot on". Though I would like to know more of the details, so would our enemies. OpSec comes first.

Telegraphing dates for withdrawal, troop strength, etc was the epitome of foolishness and stupidity. Trump is obviously listening to Mattis and his advisors.

News from The Associated Press

I would love to see us get out of that country. If we are staying, I hope that the soldiers are allowed to actually go out and destroy the enemy. It sounds like that is the plan, but only time will tell if they actually are allowed to.

 

[rob63]

Which two sides? Trump supporters, never-trumpers, Republicans, Libertarians, Democrats, libertarians, progressives, conservatives

There are a lot more than two sides represented here.

It would be nice if there were no sides.

 

[Jludo]

You have over 2,700 posts on INGO.

Roughly 2k of which are expressing your hatred of and vitriol towards Trump.

I know, being a lefty, that you think INGO folks, being mostly conservative, are a little slow but....

We got it.

You don't like Trump.

Just as the Obama bashing levelled off after we all came to understand most members weren't fans...

 

[Dddrees]

Here's something "real" to discuss, the President's speech last night on Afghanistan. I found it to be "spot on". Though I would like to know more of the details, so would our enemies. OpSec comes first.

Telegraphing dates for withdrawal, troop strength, etc was the epitome of foolishness and stupidity. Trump is obviously listening to Mattis and his advisors.

News from The Associated Press

He's a terrible orator and yes I find that an important skill for a person in this type of position. I think it reflects badly on us as a country and his ability to win people over.

Beyound that I found he failed measurably at achieving the balance of secrecy and our need to know as a democratic country.

 

[KLB]

Not democrats. That was my point. Yeah I know there are a lot of people who don't like Trump but the majority here do. The ones that don't always are loud because they feel the need to cry about it constantly but they aren't the majority. Like liberals lol

I really don't think that is true. I think a minority like Trump, and a majority are glad he beat Clinton. Not the same thing at all.

 

[Trigger Time]

Poppycock. You see the world in monolithic blocks. I am absolutely sure that most here are more nuanced than that. At a certain point, you have to wonder whether the laughter is with you or at you.

Whatever you are the other side so it's of no consequence what you think

 

[KLB]

He's a terrible orator and yes I find that an important skill for a person in this type of position. I think it reflects badly on us as a country.

Beyound that I found he failed measurably at achieve the balance of secrecy and our need to know as a democratic country.

Failed in which direction?

 

[Trigger Time]

You all have each other on speed dial or what

 

[Dddrees]

Failed in which direction?

Our need to know.

 

[Trigger Time]

2%
2%
2%

 

[Birds Away]

Our need to know.

One minute you're bashing him for letting out secrets and the next you bashing him for not keeping you informed. Make up your mind.

 

[Dddrees]

One minute you're bashing him for letting out secrets and the next you bashing him for not keeping you informed. Make up your mind.

There's a balance here and I don't see him handling that well.

 

[Trigger Time]

My guy is in the white house and your ***** isn't

 

[Dddrees]

My guy is in the white house and your ***** isn't

Common now.

My dog is bigger than your dog. LOL

We can do better than that.

Hey, at least I'm trying.