Ten most ghetto cities in Indiana

[Kutnupe14]

Overheard at a wedding in Los Angeles from a conversation between my wife and one of her childhood friends....

"Your husband is funny and comes across like a real redneck..."

"Hush...He may hear you and he is arrogant enough as it is..."

"Is that a really a compliment????"

"Not really...But that's how he will take it...."

[video=youtube;bIEeOHe0bmw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIEeOHe0bmw[/video]


"Don't call me...Dirt floor Cracker....Them words just fill me with pride..."
J J Cale, MOFRO

The C word, is really REALLY offensive in my part of Alabama. And it most offensive if a white person says it to another white person. You only hear it advanced aged males from Southern Blue Blood lineage. The Sessions family comes to mind.

 

[IndyDave1776]

It's not comforting seeing Terre Haute on the list, but I've not seen any major issues coming out of there.

You really need not fret. The hoodlums here aren't really that mobile. I would consider your daughter safe. Right now, I am only living about 3 miles further from town and never have any problems here. On the other hand, if she were attending State, I would be more concerned.

East Chicago
Gary
Terre Haute
Michigan City
Hammond
Marion
Anderson
Elkhart
Indianapolis
Lake Station

Back in the dark ages when I worked for the Department of Correction, Marion, Lake, Vanderburgh, Allen, St.Joseph, and IIRC Porter counties supplied the majority of the inmates in the department. That would seem to me to be a good starting point for ferreting out 'ghetto'.

 

[Leo]

As to Detroit, less cars sold, less jobs. Less money in the community due to the downfall of the car makers means every business that sold goods and services to the car makers and their employees suffered- less money means less jobs for those businesses too.
Show me a local government run by anyone that PLANS to have less money next year and in ten years than the year before. Regardless of the incompetence of the local government, Detroit suffered because the industries that supported it suffered. Local government can only make marginal differences one way or the other. The same goes for Gary and the steel industry.

Though I will agree that unions did not help the car (or steel) manufacturers remain profitable, and, in fact, hurt that effort. From the '60s to today, some unions are very good at providing relatively high wages and benefits for low skilled or unskilled workers and that has served, in some cases, to kill the golden goose.

Thanks for the response. I see your line of thinking, and disagree with some of it. Some of it is shaded by propaganda verses fact. The information is readily available for research.

1) Direct labor cost is only 5% of the price of a car. Corporate overheads are a far greater percentage. All those multimillion dollar golden umbrellas, corporate jets, marketing salaries, etc are far more than the direct labor of a car. Those scores of multimillion dollar salaries and bonuses come from somewhere. Even Iococa said this was scandalous.
2) Quality is an engineered function. No amount of production line workmanship can over come the likelyhood of cheap chinese seals leaking. Nothing the worker on the floor can do about a marginal quality design. The workman on the line that is attaching orient produced wiring harnesses is not at fault when the crap harness is full of intermittent connectivity issues. Do you see mexican produced GM's and Chryslers being better quality? The worker can only do his job.

I see quality and productivity from the top down. That is how the American consultants taught the Japanese. I believe the japanese auto industry still observes a day to honor the teachings. My best recollection are the names George McPherson and Ketterling (engineering) and Deming (quality control). I'll have to dig up the info to be sure, I wrote that report 40 years ago. They were professionals from General Motors in the 1950's.

With ever increasing or ever decreasing budgets, it is the government leaders that pass laws that make it more favorable or less favorable to business. That is also who passed budgets that may or may not be responsible to the citizens. They are the ones that issue bonds for pet projects where their names are on bronze plaques. Many of these projects do not serve the good of the people. Yet the bonds continue to float out in spaces with no responsible budgetary plan to retire the debt. Project after project, debit upon debt.
ANY law that grants one class or another special protections and privileges costs money. It does not matter if you are burdening individuals or businesses, someone else pays for the "special" interests. I was close to managers in heavy industry when the federal government forced MA-5 workers on American Industry. I personally know both hourly workers and salary employees that worked the same plant, before, during and after that time. Government decree of special privileges to a protected class cost burdens anyone who is productive.

Lunchbox joe that labored around the clock had almost nothing to do with creating the cesspool that is today's Detroit, or Gary, etc. . The socialization of union leadership, when they openly crawled in bed with socialist politicians, both bled the golden calf, with far more authority, power, and cunning than bus loads of production floor employees. Of course they also bled lunchbox joe to death also.

A man in your field can see each opinion has points. I appreaciate the dialog.

 

[AA&E]

Quote from the linked article - "Gary saw 54 murders in 2013, which is off-the-charts high for any city of less than 80,000 people. That means that 1 in 1,500 people in Gary was killed."


Good God. Seriously?

 

[Leo]

Seriously?

Sad but true

 

[churchmouse]

Quote from the linked article - "Gary saw 54 murders in 2013, which is off-the-charts high for any city of less than 80,000 people. That means that 1 in 1,500 people in Gary was killed."


Good God. Seriously?

When an area falls into the darkness as far as Gary has the animals take over.
Those same animals are lurking here in Indy they are just still outnumbered to a point they can not run amok freely as they would like to.

 

[Snapdragon]

When an area falls into the darkness as far as Gary has the animals take over.
Those same animals are lurking here in Indy they are just still outnumbered to a point they can not run amok freely as they would like to.

Between earning my two degrees at IU Northwest, teaching at IU Northwest, and teaching at Ivy Tech, I was in Gary on a daily basis for nearly 35 years. I can honestly say that for about 34 of those years I felt fairly safe because the violence was mostly gang and drug-related. Very little was random. It was only recently that I felt it was time to A) carry a gun and, later B) move on to a job closer to my little home in suburbia.

 

[HoughMade]

Between earning my two degrees at IU Northwest, teaching at IU Northwest, and teaching at Ivy Tech, I was in Gary on a daily basis for nearly 35 years. I can honestly say that for about 34 of those years I felt fairly safe because the violence was mostly gang and drug-related. Very little was random. It was only recently that I felt it was time to A) carry a gun and, later B) move on to a job closer to my little home in suburbia.

I haven't spent as much time in Gary as you, but I have spent substantial time there. I agree with your assessment. However even now, There are only certain places at certain times that heighten my awareness beyond what it normally is. There are many places in the city that aren't pretty, but I don't feel like most of them are overtly dangerous...during daylight hours.

Although the federal bankruptcy court used to be at 610 Connecticut and the glass front doors, from the time I started going there in the mid '90s (I clerked for a BR attorney) until they moved the court to Hammond always had small caliber bullet holes. Maybe I'm dumb, but I kind of thought that was funny for some reason.

 

[Snapdragon]

I haven't spent as much time in Gary as you, but I have spent substantial time there. I agree with your assessment. However even now, There are only certain places at certain times that heighten my awareness beyond what it normally is. There are many places in the city that aren't pretty, but I don't feel like most of them are overtly dangerous...during daylight hours.

Although the federal bankruptcy court used to be at 610 Connecticut and the glass front doors, from the time I started going there in the mid '90s (I clerked for a BR attorney) until they moved the court to Hammond always had small caliber bullet holes. Maybe I'm dumb, but I kind of thought that was funny for some reason.

And I'll never quit going to Jack's Pawn shop on 16th and Broadway. That's where I bought my first Smith and Wesson.

 

[indiucky]

And I'll never quit going to Jack's Pawn shop on 16th and Broadway. That's where I bought my first Smith and Wesson.

I will petition the State for an Historical Marker for that site commemorating the event...

 

[Snapdragon]

I will petition the State for an Historical Marker for that site commemorating the event...

 

[indiucky]

The C word, is really REALLY offensive in my part of Alabama. And it most offensive if a white person says it to another white person. You only hear it advanced aged males from Southern Blue Blood lineage. The Sessions family comes to mind.

I have heard that about the panhandle of Florida as well....If you listen to the song about midway J J tells a story similar to what you just said..A derogatory term used by rich white folk to disparage their neighbors...He wrote this song to honor his grandma who took the slur and turned it around as a symbol of independence and pride....He even sings a line from "Jimmy Cracked Corn".......

 

[Snapdragon]

I will petition the State for an Historical Marker for that site commemorating the event...

And I sold you the grips off from her.

Now she's my truck gun.

 

[SSGSAD]

Evansville missed the top ten by one spot. We need to try harder. Wait, can you make an effort to be more ghetto? seems counter-intuitive.

Just wait, the "LIBERALS" will take care of that for you !!!!!

 

[Zoub]

I have always seen the term ghetto as cover for saying "urban areas of blight and poverty, populated by minorities." Top 10 in Indiana is a stretch. My experience in true ghettos was they only wanted to kill me because I didn't belong on their turf. You just do not go there and if your employer requires it, you arrange for police escort. Otherwise you stay out, same way they stay out of your neighborhood.

Ghetto is just not a word I ever used. I am not passing judgement here. I only make fun of Mexican midgets with my black friends. I actively recruit all people to hate mines while at the same time I am Pro-clown. I don't care if people approve of my use of the word retard. I just don't use ghetto.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I have heard that about the panhandle of Florida as well....If you listen to the song about midway J J tells a story similar to what you just said..A derogatory term used by rich white folk to disparage their neighbors...He wrote this song to honor his grandma who took the slur and turned it around as a symbol of independence and pride....He even sings a line from "Jimmy Cracked Corn".......

My hometown, is a stone's throw from the panhandle. In fact, one of our high school sports rivals was Mosley HS, in Panama City. So I guess the thought is consistent in that area.

 

[ghuns]

My hometown, is a stone's throw from the panhandle.

Ain't no rednecks quite like north Florida rednecks.

 

[Clay]

It's not comforting seeing Terre Haute on the list, but I've not seen any major issues coming out of there.

I live here, and I don't agree with it. Part of it is that I live here, but part of it is that I don't see the issue they are talking about. Granted, I don't live in the ghetto, and technically I don't even live in Terre Haute, I'm out in the county.

anyway, maybe it's these rose tinted glasses.......

 

[natdscott]

The surveyors must have forgotten that Richmond does not belong to, nor is claimed by, Ohio. The indigenous crowd don't even use guns...they've got bricks. Since bricks are cheap, reusable on multiple victims, and present little danger to (other) innocents, it's a win for everybody.

Apparently.

-Nate

 

[steveh_131]

Ghetto is just not a word I ever used. I am not passing judgement here. I only make fun of Mexican midgets with my black friends. I actively recruit all people to hate mines while at the same time I am Pro-clown. I don't care if people approve of my use of the word retard. I just don't use ghetto.

You are one whacky dude. I like it.