Stand your ground law and my unfortunate situation with "new neighbor"

[bradmedic04]

Nope, I was being serious. Never had need to investigate them and figured they were (like all legal paperwork) a long involved hassle.

I would think your assumption that they're a PIA is probably accurate.

Ain't wez gotz duh lawyaz in duh hows to ansur?

 

[iChokePeople]

IANAL, but I'm very closely affiliated with (aka married to...) someone who is intimately familiar with ROs in my county. I can ONLY speak directly to that county, don't know that they're all the same, but in THESE parts, it certainly can happen very quickly "over your lunch hour", to borrow your words. You go in, fill out paperwork, hand it to the court secretary. The court secretary takes it to the judge. You might not even talk to the judge in person, at least for now. It can be granted immediately, if the circumstances seem to warrant it, or it can be "taken under advisement" and set for a hearing where both sides will have the opportunity to tell their side of the story. Or I imagine it can be put in the round file, though I've never heard that mentioned. I can ask for more details over lunch, and pose this exact situation, just to get a reaction.

 

[bradmedic04]

That makes sense. I could see in a domestic violence situation that a judge would issue it right away, given the volatile nature of DV situations and the likelihood of the abuser going nuclear. I'll be curious to see what feedback you get, given the particulars here.

 

[iChokePeople]

That makes sense. I could see in a domestic violence situation that a judge would issue it right away, given the volatile nature of DV situations and the likelihood of the abuser going nuclear. I'll be curious to see what feedback you get, given the particulars here.

I'm interested, as well, particularly if the guy has warrants. I've never heard her talk about that situation, so I'll ask.

 

[bradmedic04]

I still want to know what the warrants are for...

 

[Harleyrider_50]

Sooner or later you are going to have to man up and talk to him.

Do you want to teach your kids that the best way to deal with a bully is to run and hide? Are you going to spend your whole life feeling like a prisoner and hiding from your neighbor?

Worst case scenario -- you try to talk to him and he beats you to a pulp. He'll go back to jail and you don't have to be scared any more.

......Dude don' HAVE ta do a eF'n thing.......'cept stay in his own space.....an' mind his own bizz.......perty simple, really.....an' it'd be the other dudes bes' interest......ta do the same......

 

[JetGirl]

I still want to know what the warrants are for...

And if he has warrants and now his current whereabouts/address has been confirmed...

 

[bradmedic04]

And if he has warrants and now his current whereabouts/address has been confirmed...

If his whereabouts were unknown, he probably got busted for not checking in with his parole officer. If he exists, that is....

 

[printcraft]

 

[JetGirl]

If his whereabouts were unknown, he probably got busted for not checking in with his parole officer. If he exists, that is....

OK... if you have outstanding warrants, why are you out and just "checking in"?
Isn't a warrant some sort of document to bring you in? 'Splain this like I'm four.

 

[bradmedic04]

OK... if you have outstanding warrants, why are you out and just "checking in"?
Isn't a warrant some sort of document to bring you in? 'Splain this like I'm four.

Parole is basically supervised release, so while on parole you usually (always?) have an officer with whom you are required to check in, and who regularly checks in on you. If you fail to check in(among tons of other things a parollee can do to violate parole), they can 'violate' you, triggering a warrant to be issued for your arrest.

So this guy gets released on parole, fails to contact his parole officer/check in, warrant gets issued, OP finds said warrant on the interwebz. Does that make a bit more sense?
If he exists....

 

[Trigger Time]

And no one wore his butt out with a shovel.....Really

^this


or maybe the employees thought he was trying to order a chalupa.

 

[JetGirl]

Parole is basically supervised release

So this guy gets released on parole, fails to contact his parole officer/check in, warrant gets issued, OP finds said warrant on the interwebz. Does that make a bit more sense?
If he exists....

I understand "parole", but I guess I thought "warrant" = hauled in. So when OP said he found warrants out for him, I figured now that they know where he is, he wouldn't be there long. Huh.

 

[bradmedic04]

I understand "parole", but I guess I thought "warrant" = hauled in. So when OP said he found warrants out for him, I figured now that they know where he is, he wouldn't be there long. Huh.

Oh I get ya. Yeah, now that he's resurfaced, you'd think he would get picked up rather quickly. Ya know, if he exists.

 

[cbhausen]

I nominate this for INGO "Thread of the Year 2014" (at least for now...)

 

[alabasterjar]

I have been walking through this life for a really long time. There is so much more to this.

^ this ^
3 sides to every story. .. yours, mine & the truth.

Good luck OP!

 

[JetGirl]

I nominate this for INGO "Thread of the Year 2014" (at least for now...)

Why?
No houses were burned down. (yet)

 

[bradmedic04]

Why?
No houses were burned down. (yet)

Sure? We haven't heard from OP for a bit.

 

[iChokePeople]

I might have missed this... do we know he's on parole? The answer I got on warrants: Depends on what the warrants are for, mostly, but in general, when the Sheriff's office does the paperwork (or electronic paperwork) to serve the protective order, they "should" see any outstanding warrants. Depending on the nature of the warrants, they might serve the protective order and make an arrest for an outstanding warrant all in one trip. My source is not familiar with how that part would work on the law enforcement side, unfortunately.

I also asked about the chance of a protective order being just flat denied (vs. granted or set for a hearing), and was told that is rare. One example given was some bat**** crazy guy who came in and filed for a protective order against Obama. That one was not set for a hearing.

 

[alabasterjar]

Why?
No houses were burned down. (yet)

And no complaints about how you can own and carry, but. ..