Sen. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind. 2018...

[indiucky]

Hey man, Kut does a pretty good job, please don't diminish his contributions.

Alpo as well...Tlex makes me think.....

 

[bwframe]

I agree, if there was a more visible leftist presence here to balance against the right-wing rhetoric, I would probably stick around, but it just doesn't seem to be the case. Not that I'm interested in finding an echo chamber.

The problem with that is that the anti-gunners don't fit in here at all...

 

[printcraft]

Alpo as well...Tlex makes me think.....

They are coming out of the woodwork around here... far from an echo chamber.

 

[Breynolds38]

So you don't like it here, everyone is doing it wrong, maybe it's you?

Not everyone, just people with nothing to say the moment they get any push-back on their opinions. Falling back to ad hominem attacks as soon as someone disagrees with your stance on an issue just doesn't do it for me.

 

[bwframe]

They are coming out of the woodwork around here... far from an echo chamber.

There are certainly those here who claim to be Second Amendment supporters, yet throw away that support with their negative rhetoric and votes.

 

[HoughMade]

Not everyone, just people with nothing to say the moment they get any push-back on their opinions. Falling back to ad hominem attacks as soon as someone disagrees with your stance on an issue just doesn't do it for me.

When I see something worthy of response, I shall respond. I responded to PaulF.

 

[Breynolds38]

The problem with that is that the anti-gunners don't fit in here at all...

I think a bigger problem is when you hear leftist, you think Hillary Clinton, who is so far right to me she might as well be Trump's vice president.

 

[bwframe]

This...

.. I am a 1 issue voter now and thats the second amendment. It protects and keeps all of the others. The supreme court is there to protect and defend the constitution from political attacks however we have seen liberal justices who do not believe in the literal interpretation of the 2nd amendment when it says "shall not be Infringed" and they call it a living document that is outdated. I will NEVER give the Democrats control of our courts or our bodies of government again by voting for a 3rd party (libertarians) that is POLITICALLY irrelevant and unable to compete. I agree with them on MANY things however at this time they do not have a shot and all a vote for them is doing is handing it to the Democrats.
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I do not agree with everything the Republicans want or stand for however, I believe that as long as they appoint moderates and conservative justices to the supreme court who make LITERAL interpritations of the constitution then I honestly believe the issues you and I hold most dear will be safe and even expanded...

 

[Thor]

5 years on a gun forum and abortion is the only topic one can find to comment on?

 

[Breynolds38]

When I see something worthy of response, I shall respond. I responded to PaulF.

That's the spirit, keep gettin those jabs in, buddy! Never let em get ya down!

 

[printcraft]

I think a bigger problem is when you hear leftist, you think Hillary Clinton, who is so far right to me she might as well be Trump's vice president.

 

[JettaKnight]

IBTS.

 

[printcraft]

IBTS.

We forgot about you too. Sorry.

 

[Breynolds38]

5 years on a gun forum and abortion is the only topic one can find to comment on?

Nonsense, I posted about what side dishes go well with pizza one time, it's right there in my post history.

 

[HoughMade]

That's the spirit, keep gettin those jabs in, buddy! Never let em get ya down!

You have more than doubled your post count today, so I say: CONGRATS!!!





Now remind me, what was it you said that you think demanded a response. Maybe I'll reconsider.

 

[2A_Tom]

It seems unlikely to me that any coherent moral philosophy can simultaneously hold that torturing an animal is unacceptable but killing a baby is.

The pro-abortion position isn't that killing babies is OK; it's that a fetus isn't a person. Nobody is denying that a fetus is alive. Nobody is denying that a fetus has distinct DNA from the woman. They are just saying that a fetus isn't a person and so doesn't deserve the rights of a person.

This makes me cry.

 

[PaulF]

I would call that a misreading of my position. I would say killing an unborn baby who is no threat is not any more justified inside or outside the womb. If you are willing to limit abortion to situations where the physical life of the mother is in jeopardy, I may disagree fundamentally, but I would be on board with that. In other words, killing a baby is neither self-defense, nor otherwise justified except, arguably, in extremely rare circumstances.



Yeah, it's an intractable argument based upon deeply rooted belief systems. I hope that we can have rational discussions, individually and as a society, rather than just screaming at each other. That is tiresome. I don't believe that people who disagree with me are evil people. We can disagree in some areas and still be friends.

Thank you for engaging.

To your highlighted point: who gets to define "threat" (also, "risk"), and who gets to set the threshold of acceptability for either? Shouldn't it be the person taking that risk? CAN it be any other person?

In other words...it is a fact that pregnancy kills women every day. There is a measurable amount of death caused by pregnancy, delivery, or the complications thereof. How is it anyone else's place to decide what level of risk is acceptable for the perceived reward? Only that person, herself, can make that decision...at least in my mind.

 

[Breynolds38]

Now remind me, what was it you said that you think demanded a response. Maybe I'll reconsider.

You're an adult (I assume), you can navigate a forum if you want to.

 

[bwframe]

 

[Thor]

Nonsense, I posted about what side dishes go well with pizza one time, it's right there in my post history.

Not so much, post history seems to go back a whole 2 hours at this post. Register and lose your keyboard?