SCOTUS Strikes Down ObamaCare Individual Mandate

[Expat]

Gee um what if u cant afford it?

Jimmy

I assume they will take the money from other people against their will to pay it for you.

 

[gunowner930]

So entering a contract with a private company is now a tax because the IRS gets involved if one does not enter that contract????

It's time for somebody to write a law that mandates that everybody must buy a gun from a private manufacturer, and if they don't the IRS will fine them...

These 5 pieces of trash on the Supreme Court can claim that a private transaction is a tax, but that doesn't make it so anymore than a court can rule that my Pontiac is in fact a Ford.

 

[Indy317]

This is so much bigger than just the ruling on Obamacare. The decision today by Roberts gives Barack Hussein the WH in November. We have witnessed the last nail in America's coffin this morning. We're done.

If it gives him the WH, then he had it anyway because people would want Nat'l. Healthcare so strongly, they would want Dems in charge to appoint more justices to uphold it in the future.

We will get national healthcare in this country. There is no way around it. If you are healthy, you won't have much of an issue. If you are unhealthy, you will likely not get as good as care as you will now. Just wait till nurses and doctors are told they are going to get a 20% or more paycut! The current system is broke, and national healthcare will be even worse.

 

[.45 Dave]

Only took 3 pages to get to "OBAMA IS COMING FOR OUR GUNS!".

I am surprised its not on page one.

Should I take that to mean you're saying he won't? Fast and Furious was only a failed attempt. This is going to give him a lift to try anything now.

 

[teddy12b]

The Dow Jones is tanking at the moment.....

Spot prices on gold and silver also just took a hit.

Gold at $1,556
Silver at $26.47

Best of luck everyone. Maybe after the economic collapse enough of us will be left over to fire up the grid and talk on the internet once again.

 

[Expat]

If it gives him the WH, then he had it anyway because people would want Nat'l. Healthcare so strongly, they would want Dems in charge to appoint more justices to uphold it in the future.

We will get national healthcare in this country. There is no way around it. If you are healthy, you won't have much of an issue. If you are unhealthy, you will likely not get as good as care as you will now. Just wait till nurses and doctors are told they are going to get a 20% or more paycut! The current system is broke, and national healthcare will be even worse.

Obama made it clear in several discussions that this is just the first step. He is for single payer. I am not sure how he is going to get closer to that with this decision.

 

[manwithnoname]

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[strahd71]

Should I take that to mean you're saying he won't? Fast and Furious was only a failed attempt. This is going to give him a lift to try anything now.

was going to rep you but their making me spread some around first

jake

 

[snorko]

Can anyone come up with an example of a tax levied for NOT doing something? Not everyone pays a $200 NFA tax, but everyone who chooses to buy a machine gun does. Not everyone pays the 3% federal telephone tax, but everyone with a traditional home phone does.

It is likely I will personally benefit from the decision. I purchase my own health insurance privately. Since being diagnosed with sleep apnea, I am limited to keeping my very, very expensive plan. Indiana does not allow exclusions and thus no one will write a policy. This has always irked me as I do not have excessive medical expenses. In fact, my annual premium for 2012 is more than double the total claims I have had in 13 years.

 

[Spot Me 2]

The Dow Jones is tanking at the moment.....

He will use todays (I predict) biggest loss in history to call for more regulation....by EO of coarse.....

 

[TheRude1]

We are so screwed as a nation of freedom

Got somethen else to say but I will not put it on the webs fell free to ask me inperson thow

 

[mrjarrell]

So, what it all boils down to is that Obamacare is not a mandate. It's a tax. Can't help but wonder where congress goes from here.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/06/dont-call-it-a-mandate-its-a-tax/

Salvaging the idea that Congress did have the power to try to expand health care to virtually all Americans, the Supreme Court on Monday upheld the constitutionality of the crucial – and most controversial — feature of the Affordable Care Act. By a vote of 5-4, however, the Court did not sustain it as a command for Americans to buy insurance, but as a tax if they don’t. That is the way Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., was willing to vote for it, and his view prevailed. The other Justices split 4-4, with four wanting to uphold it as a mandate, and four opposed to it in any form.

 

[jedi]

BTW back in 2009 she was right!
https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/22945-is_she_right.html

 

[mike8170]

There are some things that I thought I would never see in my lifetime, and I have tried to prepare my kids for the eventuality. I guess I was wrong and we will see them together.

 

[mrjarrell]

States have an out and can't be punished for refusing to participate in a medicaid expansion.

Court holds that states have choice whether to join medicaid expansion : SCOTUSblog

 

[Rookie]

This is great news for everyone! Obama has saved us!

Sorry, I wanted to see what it was like to be a politician. Any suggestions on how to get the taste of **** out of my mouth?

 

[longbow]

There are some things that I thought I would never see in my lifetime, and I have tried to prepare my kids for the eventuality. I guess I was wrong and we will see them together.

Do tell!

 

[mike8170]

States have an out and can't be punished for refusing to participate in a medicaid expansion.

Court holds that states have choice whether to join medicaid expansion : SCOTUSblog

But, just like seatbelt laws and smoking bans, how long will that out last? I am just going by what I have learned about the socialist left and nanny statist.

 

[manwithnoname]

The republic is dead.

Where now will Liberty find quarter?

 

[mike8170]

Do tell!

I think we just got a whole lot closer to the bottom of that long slope this Republic has been sliding down.

**EDIT** I think I am going to peruse the classifieds for a few. It is not as depressing seeing what I can't afford compared to this thread.