School request children throw can goods at shooters?????????????

[Denny347]

Better than sitting there waiting to die. Doing SOMETHING is better than NOTHING.

 

[eldirector]

Better than sitting there waiting to die. Doing SOMETHING is better than NOTHING.

No necessarily. Encouraging children to put themselves into harms way with little to no chance of survival isn't really "better" in my book.

There are myriad other options the school could be pursuing that WOULD be better than nothing. But, they chose this instead.

 

[OakRiver]

The tag line for this thread is "School request children throw..." and my first was feces. I'm not sure which is the bigger deterrent

 

[OakRiver]

No necessarily. Encouraging children to put themselves into harms way with little to no chance of survival isn't really "better" in my book.

There are myriad other options the school could be pursuing that WOULD be better than nothing. But, they chose this instead.

The new Sandy Hook lawsuit against the school could be very interesting, especially with the potential impact on school budgets.

 

[AndersonIN]

Better than sitting there waiting to die. Doing SOMETHING is better than NOTHING.

While I don't disagree with that I do have questions.

Will the children received adequate can training?

Are these attached in "holsters" at each desk for immediate access?

Will they be dispersed as the intruder is identified?

Will the children be trained in "fields of fire" concerns?

Will they designate and train "can snipers" if they is a hostage taken?

Will the children be terrified when walking in the halls away from their cans or will there be emergency cans under glass in the hallways?

These and many other questions MUST be answered!

 

[bradmedic04]

Whomever came up with this idea should be "canned."

 

[BiscuitNaBasket]

Whomever came up with this idea should be "canned."

 

[jwh20]

I think a lot of attention needs to be placed on the ergonomics of this. Some children might have trouble grasping a large pork & beans can where a smaller tomato paste can might be better suited to them. You also have the can volume vs. mass considerations. A can of SPAM carries a lot more punch than a can of peas due to the denser product. What about reloading? Could six-packs be used more effectively since you have six cans to throw vs. a single.

What if the perps get wind of this scheme and decide to wear protective gear? All the pelting in the world is not going to stop a very determined bad guy!

What about product liability concerns? Would Libby's be liable for incorrect use of their products here? (Any lawyers please chime on with your thoughts!)

It's darned clear that this entire scheme has not been properly thought out.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Better than sitting there waiting to die. Doing SOMETHING is better than NOTHING.

Yep. I always told my kids, if you hear shooting and its not in the class you are in, bust the window out and get out of the school

 

[AndersonIN]

Yep. I always told my kids, if you hear shooting and its not in the class you are in, bust the window out and get out of the school

Best way I've seen on here to use a can so far!

 

[Bunnykid68]

Best way I've seen on here to use a can so far!

Brilliant, use the can to bust the window from a distance

 

[chipbennett]

And for the cost of all of those canned goods, the school could pay for locks on the doors (that lock from the inside), and rope ladders for second-story (and higher) classrooms.

 

[HoughMade]

The tag line for this thread is "School request children throw..." and my first was feces. I'm not sure which is the bigger deterrent

I always carry with one in the chamber.

 

[looney2ns]

Yep. I always told my kids, if you hear shooting and its not in the class you are in, bust the window out and get out of the school

Wait, you were allowed to have kids???

 

[BogWalker]

Yep. I always told my kids, if you hear shooting and its not in the class you are in, bust the window out and get out of the school

That's what I've always been told to do, and I don't see why it isn't just standard policy. Oh, "but what if they shoot you when you try to leave the building!" Well, they're going to try and shoot me when I'm in it anyways, so I'll take my chances.

 

[Cygnus]

I wonder if this is someone's dummed down version of A.L.I.C.E. training......Anyone heard of that? In part they advocate confrontation if FTF with the gunman. Yelling, throwing WHATEVER you can to hurt him. They suggest schoolbooks, chairs, staplers, etc. They also suggest EXITING if you can. I am not an expert but I believe ALICE is Alert Locate Inform Confront Escape.
That made sense to me. The crap linked in the OP is stupid advice for a few reasons one of which being practicality.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Wait, you were allowed to have kids???

 

[Denny347]

No necessarily. Encouraging children to put themselves into harms way with little to no chance of survival isn't really "better" in my book.

There are myriad other options the school could be pursuing that WOULD be better than nothing. But, they chose this instead.

Well, I should have qualified my answer. I should have said that once they are either cornered or left with no other option, fighting back is better than curling up in a ball while they shoot you to death.

 

[Woobie]

Better hope the school gets attacked in the morning. They're going to need those canned goods to supplement the nutritional content of the Michelle Obama-approved school lunch.

Yeah, about that. My son has a day every so often when the lunch is trix yogurt, string cheese, goldfish crackers and mixed veggies. Thanks Michelle!

 

[indiana36Bravo]

Oh my. I would give them kudos if they taught the kids "grab anything you can to throw at the shooter, run, etc" rather than "huddle in the classroom like a target". But actually pretending that this is a GOOD weapon and/or having the kids mistakingly think the can might be more helpful than escape is well.... embarrassing at the least.

Our school here, I actually helped implement and research what was taught now here and its called the ALICE program and it is teaching kids to through the closet thing and attack the person coming in the door instead of huddling in the corner waiting to die!! which is awesome because now I remember myself getting in trouble freshman year when we ran the attacker drill and teacher told everyone to get in the corner and hid and I grabbed the scissors and a yard stick and stood right next to the door and she didn't like that because I wasn't following the rules, (but she did agree that I was smarter than the "system" lol)