Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

[nra4ever]

This winter is going to wreck Europe's resolve. A large turnover in Congress may cut Ukraine off. Russia is continuing to make bank on high oil and gas prices. Ukrainian bodies and Western cash will run out long before Russia runs out of people and stuff.

That peace deal that BoJo shut down is starting to look pretty good.

You nailed it. I saw that reported the other day that BoJo flew in in person just to queer the deal. Well it’s too late now.

 

[Ark]

You nailed it. I saw that reported the other day that BoJo flew in in person just to queer the deal. Well it’s too late now.

All of our current leaders wanted this war so bad they could taste it.

 

[nra4ever]

All of our current leaders wanted this war so bad they could taste it.

Of course they did!!! Follow the money.

13.7 billion more for Ukraine!!!

Biden seeks $47B for Ukraine, COVID-19, monkeypox, disasters

President Joe Biden is asking Congress to provide more than $47 billion in emergency dollars that would go toward the war in Ukraine, the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the ongoing monkeypox outbreak and help for recent natural disasters in Kentucky and other states.

www.wsls.com

 

[actaeon277]

I would be looking at hitting targets deep in russia.
Power plants.
Distribution centers
etc

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I would be looking at hitting targets deep in russia.
Power plants.
Distribution centers
etc

Yeah, that's one thing I want to ask and I understand I do not have my arms around Ukraine's capacity and do not expect them to have the MDO ability of the Americans, but why aren't they hitting deep?

Shooting up train tracks, train stations, power plants, airfields, fuel dumps, inter alia.

 

[ljk]

How did the Kherson offensive go?

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

I may be wrong, but I'm thinking the more they shoot up Russians, and infrastructure, in Russia, the less fun Mr. Putin's going to find this little exercise in adventurism.

 

[smokingman]

I may be wrong, but I'm thinking the more they shoot up Russians, and infrastructure, in Russia, the less fun Mr. Putin's going to find this little exercise in adventurism.

I do not think you understand the Russian's. Russia has not been attacking power plants(Ukraine has been doing that since 2014 in Donbass and Crimea) for a reason. The Russian public would support the war even more if that were to happen.

A reason I might add we learned in Iraq when the USA considered them military targets.

 

[smokingman]

Canada has 5 Siemens turbines that were sent to be refurbished from Nord1 and Germany still has one(that has been delayed for close to 6 months now). Nordstream one was down to the main line having just one pump. It started leaking badly a few days ago flooding a bunch of control panels with oil.
The gas is now off. No more natural gas for the EU from Russia. Russia has blamed sanctions that have kept the pumps from being delivered. Russia proposed a solution. To use Nord Stream 2 which has all Russian built pumps and equipment and is ready to go. The EU rejected that idea based on existing sanctions against Nordstream 2(it could be operational in 3 days according to the EU,but na we do not have companies that will profit from it).

Russia in response to both the refusal to deliver Siemens pumps or to open Nord2 was to point out gas could not be delivered unless they had the pumps to do it(for nord1),which has not happened in more than 6 months. So the gas is off and will stay off this time unless pumps are delivered.

I would hate to live in the EU at the moment considering most of their power grid is also natural gas based. It is going to be a rough winter over there.

 

[GranolaFacility]

Canada has 5 Siemens turbines that were sent to be refurbished from Nord1 and Germany still has one(that has been delayed for close to 6 months now). Nordstream one was down to the main line having just one pump. It started leaking badly a few days ago flooding a bunch of control panels with oil.
The gas is now off. No more natural gas for the EU from Russia. Russia has blamed sanctions that have kept the pumps from being delivered. Russia proposed a solution. To use Nord Stream 2 which has all Russian built pumps and equipment and is ready to go. The EU rejected that idea based on existing sanctions against Nordstream 2(it could be operational in 3 days according to the EU,but na we do not have companies that will profit from it).

Russia in response to both the refusal to deliver Siemens pumps or to open Nord2 was to point out gas could not be delivered unless they had the pumps to do it(for nord1),which has not happened in more than 6 months. So the gas is off and will stay off this time unless pumps are delivered.

I would hate to live in the EU at the moment considering most of their power grid is also natural gas based. It is going to be a rough winter over there.

Pure insanity. What difference should it make to the average European whether the Donbass is controlled by a corrupt regime in Moscow or a corrupt regime in Kiev? Enough that they're willing to freeze to death this winter? The world has gone mad.

 

[actaeon277]

maybe people should have listened to Trump's warning about trusting Russia.

 

[rhamersley]

maybe people should have listened to Trump's warning about trusting Russia.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[Ark]

Looks like Europe has decided on hyperinflationary money printing this week as their way to solve a supply crisis, because printing paper makes more gas appear.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Looks like Europe has decided on hyperinflationary money printing this week as their way to solve a supply crisis, because printing paper makes more gas appear.

To be fair, theyre just following our administrations example

 

[Hatin Since 87]

All those billions we couldve saved.

 

[oze]

The mighty Russian bear. Bought drones from Iran that don't work. Now, buying rockets and artillery shells from the Norks to continue Pootie's adventures is invading a country with a 3rd rate military.

Russia to buy rockets, artillery shells from North Korea, US says

Russia is in the process of purchasing millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea for its fight in Ukraine, according to U.S. intelligence.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Hatin Since 87]

The mighty Russian bear. Bought drones from Iran that don't work. Now, buying rockets and artillery shells from the Norks.

Russia to buy rockets, artillery shells from North Korea, US says

Russia is in the process of purchasing millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea for its fight in Ukraine, according to U.S. intelligence.

www.defensenews.com

Good. At least we arent the only ones going broke

 

[JettaKnight]

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All those billions we couldve saved.

Rifle?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Rifle?

That was my reaction. What is it? A stubby barreled (for caliber), bolt action, tube fed .50 BMG?