Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[BigMoose]

Its still burning.

 

[Ark]

Its still burning.

Popping a couple of oil tanks isn't much in the overall scheme of things.

From the videos all they had was dumb rocket pods. Probably just made one pass and bailed.

 

[actaeon277]

It "isn't much.."

It's not.
But it shows them they can be hurt.

 

[Sylvain]

Awesome. I was wondering when Ukraine would hit something inside Russia, if only for morale and propaganda value.

Helluva duty for two Hind crews to pull. If it went south they'd have been two charred craters in the landscape, unremarked upon. Perhaps the Russians don't have much AA defense in depth.

I assume the Kremlin in Moscow is too far and too well protected to reach by helicopter or fighter jet?

 

[Keith_Indy]

They hit it because they detirmined that is where the fuel was coming from that supplied the vehicles attacking Ukraine. Simple as that.

That's what I was thinking as well.

They could hit the pipelines the Russians built to transport their fuel to their forward fuel depot/refuel point, but the Russians would just rebuild those quickly. Not so much the oil storage facilities.

Also, maybe, the Russkies have to now think about redeploying their anti-air defenses, may have to spread them out more.

From the results, they should have sent 6 times the number of attackers though. A couple with guns blazing to pepper everything up, then the rockets to ignite.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Do you think that strike hit refined product bound for the Russian market or European markets?

It may have been ballsy and even well executed, but that does not mean anyone thought about the results it would have and on whom.

Well, seems like if we wanted things to be thought through, should Putin of started this at all...

 

[bobzilla]

Well, seems like if we wanted things to be thought through, should Putin of started this at all...

Once again it’s like blaming the girl for getting raped. If she didn’t want to be raped she shouldn’t have looked like a girl.

 

[Ark]

I assume the Kremlin in Moscow is too far and too well protected to reach by helicopter or fighter jet?

I mean that dude landed a Cessna there once

 

[ancjr]

 

[Sylvain]

I mean that dude landed a Cessna there once

Yeah but I assume Vlad has a few anti-aircraft weapons deployed around the capitol at the moment.

 

[DragonGunner]

We did the same thing in WWII with the Dolittle Raid on Tokyo.....didn't do nothing.....or did it. The nation needed a victory and moral soared. It indeed was a big thing in the overall picture.

 

[BigMoose]

 

[BigMoose]

We did the same thing in WWII with the Dolittle Raid on Tokyo.....didn't do nothing.....or did it. The nation needed a victory and moral soared. It indeed was a big thing in the overall picture.

Well this might have had slightly more tangible effect, and probably about the same intangible boost.

 

[Mikey1911]

Well this might have had slightly more tangible effect, and probably about the same intangible boost.

The Doolittle Raid got Yamamoto to panic about the Emperor's safety, and he was able to force his "Operation MI" plan for Midway down the throats of the Army and the Naval General Staff. Of course, he didn't know that Rochefort's HYPO cryptanalysis team was reading enough of his communications to help Nimitz to lay an ambush.

SecWar Stimson observed immediately after the Doolittle Raid that the Japanese reaction was rather undisciplined.

Trouble is that Putin may be much less rational today than Tojo was 1942.

OTOH, Putin could easily have arranged for a false flag operation against the tank farm--sort of the way Tom Clancy postulated in "Red Storm Rising", where the KGB planted a bomb in the Kremlin and killed eight schoolchildren.

 

[Mikey1911]

Yeah but I assume Vlad has a few anti-aircraft weapons deployed around the capitol at the moment.

Not to mention his antiballistic missile defense system around Moscow. Don't know how effective it might be, but nobody is going to want to give it a live-fire test with an ICBM.

 

[nra4ever]

Wow if this is real. Sadly after a few months turns out it’s real just like the laptop. Maybe Russia saved us all.

Russia releases documents on US-funded bio-weapons, Hunter Biden exposed

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[BigMoose]

 

[Sylvain]

Not to mention his antiballistic missile defense system around Moscow. Don't know how effective it might be, but nobody is going to want to give it a live-fire test.

I'm not so sure about that. The Ukrainians seem to have some daring pilots.

Just like during WW2 you had a bunch of air defense around Berlin but you still found many Allied willing pilots to go on air raids.

Can a Mig-29 (or whatever they fly) reach Moscow undetected and fire a few missile into Vlad's office?

 

[actaeon277]

That's what I was thinking as well.

They could hit the pipelines the Russians built to transport their fuel to their forward fuel depot/refuel point, but the Russians would just rebuild those quickly. Not so much the oil storage facilities.

Also, maybe, the Russkies have to now think about redeploying their anti-air defenses, may have to spread them out more.

From the results, they should have sent 6 times the number of attackers though. A couple with guns blazing to pepper everything up, then the rockets to ignite.

Maybe.
Too many, and bigger chance of detection.
Too little, the job doesn't get done.

So, you have to decide.

Not to mention, how many RELIABLE assets are available.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Uuuummmmm... NO! Not just NO, but heyell NO!! For your next trick, River Dance through the cluster bomblets!!!

Block the road, cordon off the area, do your best Red Foreman from Ukraine impression on anyone in the area, report the mines to whoever you report to, wait for EOD.

This has been a public service announcement from a former Base Recovery After Attack Team (BRAAT) Leader. This is more challenging at MOPP 4.