Regarding voting for Donald Trump rather than voting for Hillary Clinton

[Kutnupe14]

This isn't a question of freedom, these people aren't citizens, they don't have rights under the US constitution.

If you have something to offer, and you pass a thorough vetting process, welcome.

If not, sorry, we can't take care of the entire world.
https://muslimstatistics.wordpress....ees-91-4-on-food-stamps-68-3-on-cash-welfare/

Yeah, that's not exactly correct.

 

[Kutnupe14]

We can debate this all day, however if in fact they were not allowed here (like in Japan), there would not have been a 9-11.

Are we going to play the "if - then" game? How about if the United States didn't involve themselves in a ME regional conflict, then 9-11 would not have happened?

 

[Jludo]

Are we going to play the "if - then" game? How about if the United States didn't involve themselves in a ME regional conflict, then 9-11 would not have happened?

Oh I've got one, if the NSA and FBI were competent and cooperative 911 wouldn't have happened.

 

[Jludo]

If we didn't prop up the Saudi Regime 911 wouldn't have happened.

 

[Kutnupe14]

We need to figure out how to filter people of Islamic faith based on their beliefs. A very large portion of Muslims hold ideals that are wholly incompatible with our established rights and freedoms in the United States. I'm not talking 10 or 15% of some backwater district in a one off country. Majority populations in many countries ruled by Islamic law believe in things like killing gays, killing women that were raped for having sex outside of marriage, believing women are basically slaves to a man their entire lives, believing Sharia Law should be the law of the land, and believing insulting Islam should carry a death sentence. People like that CANNOT assimilate into the United States, they will carry these ideals with them. And these are the moderate beliefs! How do you even begin to start filtering out the good from the bad, the "Muslim Extremists" from regular Muslims when majority, moderate Islam is already extreme! How do you propose to screen these people? A questionnaire? We already seen illegals crossing the southern border with a list of scripted answers designed to get them to stay here. Do you intend to individually monitor these people for days, months, years after they arrive? By the thousands, hundred of thousands, millions? It's just not possible. It is one thing to let people in with a similar moral structure but a different culture, but these people are coming from an incompatible moral structure that cannot be reconciled with freedom.

No. I won't support that. It's clearly discrimination. Now, if this was applied to ALL people wishing to enter the country, then I'd have no opposition to it.

 

[MisterChester]

No. I won't support that. It's clearly discrimination. Now, if this was applied to ALL people wishing to enter the country, then I'd have no opposition to it.

I agree with this. Trump doesn't go far enough, we have to vet everyone.

 

[femurphy77]

Heaven save us from people who get offended.

I'm offended by you invoking the protection of a mythical place!

 

[Jludo]

I agree with this. Trump doesn't go far enough, we have to vet everyone.

So ban everyone from entering the country "Until we figure things out" ?

 

[jbombelli]

Not all Muslims are terrorists.

Not all terrorists are Muslim.

Now, how do we discern the differences.

By their actions.

 

[Cameramonkey]

By their actions.

I think he means "how do we discern the differences before they go boom or get all stabby and slicey."

 

[jbombelli]

I think he means "how do we discern the differences before they go boom or get all stabby and slicey."

Just like any of us gun owners, we can't.

 

[Route 45]

No. I won't support that. It's clearly discrimination. Now, if this was applied to ALL people wishing to enter the country, then I'd have no opposition to it.

There is nothing wrong with discrimination regarding immigrants. It's our country, not theirs. They have no inherent right to be here.

 

[searpinski]

On a Trump vs. Hilldawg ticket, I don't understand how there could be any other choice but Trump. That's me, though.

 

[MisterChester]

On a Trump vs. Hilldawg ticket, I don't understand how there could be any other choice but Trump. That's me, though.

You must be new here, friend. Here on INGO if you don't agree with Trump on everything 100% you must grab a pitchfork and not vote.

 

[IndyDave1776]

There is nothing wrong with discrimination regarding immigrants. It's our country, not theirs. They have no inherent right to be here.

 

[jbombelli]

You must be new here, friend. Here on INGO if you don't agree with Trump on everything 100% you must grab a pitchfork and not vote.

Wait... is there a purity test now to be a Republican candidate?

 

[Jludo]

There is nothing wrong with discrimination regarding immigrants. It's our country, not theirs. They have no inherent right to be here.

You see a slight error, historically, in this way of thinking, do you not?
Has there been any point in history that we can look back on and say "Yea, you know what that discrimination really worked out, glad we did it"

 

[Jludo]

On a Trump vs. Hilldawg ticket, I don't understand how there could be any other choice but Trump. That's me, though.

I'm still debating which, after all according to Trump

"I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she’s given an agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her."

She is "terrific" to quote Trump. Oh well, maybe I'll wait and see what he says tomorrow before I make a decision.

 

[IndyDave1776]

You see a slight error, historically, in this way of thinking, do you not?
Has there been any point in history that we can look back on and say "Yea, you know what that discrimination really worked out, glad we did it"

If you understood your history, you would realize that those who came here voluntary came to be Americans, to become part of our culture, and to seek a new life. That is entirely different from people who are ideologically bent on our culture's destruction.

 

[MisterChester]

Wait... is there a purity test now to be a Republican candidate?

No candidate who has won nomination has been able to pass it since Reagan.