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  • Spear Dane

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    Obviously, I'm no 'prophet'. But seems to me that the way the momentum is now (seemingly) shifting in the GOP race.... we will end up with an open (or contested) convention. I can see the distinct possibility that we end up with Cruz as the GOP nominee.

    On the Dem side, I honestly believe we'll see Hillary indicted by A.G. Lynch at the recommendation of FBI director Comey... and that will leave them with Sanders.

    If all of that falls in place, many Dems will stay home on Election Day, and we'll send Ted Cruz to the White House. *Especially if his V.P. running mate is Carly Fiorina, or Rick Perry.

    Please, not Perry. He is as utterly clueless as Palin is. Otherwise I agree with this. Well more like hoping and praying for this result to somehow occur through the total cluster **** that is this election cycle.
     

    BugI02

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    I am really afraid the popularity of Donald Trump, is going to cause the Democrat candidate, no matter who it is, to be our next president. I am afraid, our party is going to split, and people will not vote, or vote for a third party, to show their disgust, for Trump being the candidate, or not being the candidate, and the Demo will walk right into the White House. I really hope our party can get their act together, get everyone on the same page, and put the best person on the ballot. I don't know who our best person is. I really do not believe Trump can beat Hillary, and maybe not Bernie. His being blunt really helped him at first, but now it is hurting him. Some of the battles he is picking now, are not helping gain him any points. Cruz has his good points, and not so good points. John Kasich is a joke. My first pick, when the debates started, were Carly and Christy. Don't flame me. When they dropped out, I went for Rubio. Don't flame me. Before he dropped out, I went for Trump. In the past week, or so, I think I am going tor Cruz. I think he is the only chance we have to beat whoever they run. On a side note, my vote does not matter, as I live in the Republic of Illinois, (don't flame me), and the State of Chicago will always go Demo, Dead or Alive. How sad.


    Just want to say there is no #NeverCruz coming from the pro Trump side, but there certainly is a #NeverTrump. If the scenario you envisage comes to pass the #NeverTrump people will own it, although they'll be blaming Trump because he had the colossal gall (in their minds) to run at all
     
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    dsol

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    Me also. Lets us all hope Hillary gets indited and we don't have to worry as much with it.

    I think there is a decent chance of her being indicted. I will be popping a beer or three in celebration of that if it ever happens. I think the dems stand about as much of a chance of putting Bernie up as the repubs do of putting Trump up. But if it comes down to Bernie vs. Trump, I think Bernie will win. Not horrible, he stands no chance of getting any of his socialist agenda through congress and we will have four more years of stalemate. He is as much of an honest guy at may ever come close to the White House and just maybe he would go for more of a moderate for the Supreme Court nominee so they stand a chance of getting a vote. Maybe. Then again, monkeys might fly out of my ass... but he would be better than Hillary for certain. Then again, a bag of week old steaming dog crap would...
     

    Twangbanger

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    ...The question I have is, who is looking out for the middle class? The answer of course is no one...

    ...The days of equal rights are gone. now there are only special rights for special segments of society....

    ...The middle class doesn't have time to burn communities down, protest at City Hall or the Supreme court, call for this or that offensive monument to be removed. We only have time to make a living. 8, 10, 12, 14 hours a day the middle class is working. Working to better not only their life but for their children. The harder you work, the more the rich steal to give freely to the poor.

    That is the middle class anger that Trump has tapped into...

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    Trump isn't going to win because of feelz.

    the Republican Party is probably done for presidential elections. They will continue to win in local and congressional elections.

    You can't run against Santa Claus. And the GOP can't win without the religious right. And independents and so called blue dog democrats will never vote red because of the religious right. Look at what happened with mike pence. He should easily be able win reelection. But since he catered to the religious mafia with that stupid RFRA law, now he's fighting it out.

    Get ready for the FSA to be the deciding voting block.

    Repped also :yesway:.

    I'll repeat the "Political Facts of Life," once again: there are 16 states that have gone Democratic for 6 Presidential elections in a row. They contain 251 Electoral Votes of the 271 needed to become President. The Democratic Party is Permanently within 20 Electoral Votes of the White House, every election. Ohio, Virginia, and Florida are the Iron Triangle of remaining states which decide the Presidency. If Democrats win 2 of 3, they win. Period.

    Trump does not matter. By September, he will only be a bad memory. The Brokered Convention is probably going to produce a Moderate GOP candidate in the same vein as McCain and Romney.

    But if the situation bonkers described above isn't remedied - if the Middle Class is kept strapped to the pool table, being repeatedly gang-raped by the Poor (who vote for the Establishment) and the Establishment (who Profit off the Poor) - then the situation described by LPMan is permanent. The Republican Party simply is not a Presidential Party anymore.

    The GOP cannot win Congress without the Religious Right. But the GOP cannot win the Presidency with the Religious Right. It's a classic Catch-22. If they shift their grip, to try to grab the other piece of the puzzle - they lose the one they already have. And when it comes right down to it, keeping Congress is all the GOP really, deep-down cares about. Because that's where the power and money are.

    Those of us out here in the sticks care about the Presidency, because it means Supreme Court Appointments - and because we want to see America's traditions preserved, not torn down by a horde of locusts.

    The Establishment does not care what those Locusts do to traditional America, as long as they can profit from it.
     
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    LPMan59

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    Repped :yesway:.



    Repped also :yesway:.

    I'll repeat the Political Facts of Life, once again: there are 16 states that have gone Democratic for 6 Presidential elections in a row. They contain 251 Electoral Votes of the 271 needed to become President. The Democratic Party is Permanently within 20 Electoral Votes of the White House, every election. Ohio, Virginia, and Florida are the Iron Triangle of remaining states which decide the Presidency. If Democrats win 2 of 3, they win, period.

    Trump does not matter. By September, he will only be a bad memory. But if the situation bonkers described above isn't remedied - if the Middle Class is kept strapped to the pool table, being repeatedly gang-raped by the Poor and the Establishment that Profit off the poor - then the situation described by LP man is permanent. The Republican Party simply is not a Presidential Party anymore.

    sometimes I hate being right :(
     

    BugI02

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    I think there is a decent chance of her being indicted. I will be popping a beer or three in celebration of that if it ever happens. I think the dems stand about as much of a chance of putting Bernie up as the repubs do of putting Trump up. But if it comes down to Bernie vs. Trump, I think Bernie will win. Not horrible, he stands no chance of getting any of his socialist agenda through congress and we will have four more years of stalemate. He is as much of an honest guy at may ever come close to the White House and just maybe he would go for more of a moderate for the Supreme Court nominee so they stand a chance of getting a vote. Maybe. Then again, monkeys might fly out of my ass... but he would be better than Hillary for certain. Then again, a bag of week old steaming dog crap would...


    I agree. I too would rather have Bernie as the Dem nominee because if we couldn't beat him I expect his coattails would be non-existent (perhaps even negative)
     

    cbhausen

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    So many seem to have this all figured out (or have crystal balls). I have no idea whatsoever what will happen in November. But I DO know I will vote for ANYONE the Republicans put up against ANY Democrat.
     

    17 squirrel

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    So many seem to have this all figured out (or have crystal balls). I have no idea whatsoever what will happen in November. But I DO know I will vote for ANYONE the Republicans put up against ANY Democrat.

    You would think with all this knowledge here, some here would be living on the Hill and be working for one of the Presidential Candidates or have their own TV Show..
     

    MisterChester

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    Repped also :yesway:.

    I'll repeat the "Political Facts of Life," once again: there are 16 states that have gone Democratic for 6 Presidential elections in a row. They contain 251 Electoral Votes of the 271 needed to become President. The Democratic Party is Permanently within 20 Electoral Votes of the White House, every election. Ohio, Virginia, and Florida are the Iron Triangle of remaining states which decide the Presidency. If Democrats win 2 of 3, they win. Period.

    Trump does not matter. By September, he will only be a bad memory. The Brokered Convention is probably going to produce a Moderate GOP candidate in the same vein as McCain and Romney.

    But if the situation bonkers described above isn't remedied - if the Middle Class is kept strapped to the pool table, being repeatedly gang-raped by the Poor (who vote for the Establishment) and the Establishment (who Profit off the Poor) - then the situation described by LPMan is permanent. The Republican Party simply is not a Presidential Party anymore.

    The GOP cannot win Congress without the Religious Right. But the GOP cannot win the Presidency with the Religious Right. It's a classic Catch-22. If they shift their grip, to try to grab the other piece of the puzzle - they lose the one they already have. And when it comes right down to it, keeping Congress is all the GOP really, deep-down cares about. Because that's where the power and money are.

    Those of us out here in the sticks care about the Presidency, because it means Supreme Court Appointments - and because we want to see America's traditions preserved, not torn down by a horde of locusts.

    The Establishment does not care what those Locusts do to traditional America, as long as they can profit from it.

    GOP dominance of congress won't last forever though. Right now it's just a waiting game for the religious right to lose relevance until the true potential of the party can be established. They've been holding back the party so much. Once they are out of the picture they can get actual small-government minded individuals to run for president and win.
     

    GREEN607

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    If the Republicans want to win the White House this year, then Cruz and Kasich must back out and endorse Trump. Kasich isn't popular enough. Cruz is an unelectable member of the religious right. Trump is the only candidate with a real grassroots system and support from the middle class. No one cares about the stuff Cruz cares about. No one likes the party elite. Trump is the only one who can put up a real fight. If it's a contested convention, and Trump doesn't get it, the party effectively cucked itself to the democrats and we'll have a Hillary presidency. We'll see a map of blue on election night if Ted Scruz is the republican. The question is do you want to hand it to Hillary before it started or do you want a serious chance?

    Q: What friggin' world are you ​living in????
     

    indykid

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    The big question I have for the republican party is assuming every candidate from the debate series is un-electable, who then would be a true viable candidate. Rule out the has beens, good or bad like Rand Paul, Romeny, etc. Is there a republican that we can truly get behind in the short period of convention to election?
     

    Scottiedog422

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    The big question I have for the republican party is assuming every candidate from the debate series is un-electable, who then would be a true viable candidate. Rule out the has beens, good or bad like Rand Paul, Romeny, etc. Is there a republican that we can truly get behind in the short period of convention to election?
    After Romney (who you ruled out), maybe a Hail Mary of Paul Ryan.
     

    BugI02

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    The big question I have for the republican party is assuming every candidate from the debate series is un-electable, who then would be a true viable candidate. Rule out the has beens, good or bad like Rand Paul, Romeny, etc. Is there a republican that we can truly get behind in the short period of convention to election?

    If you're going to rule out Rand Paul I would have to say the answer is no
     

    jamil

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    If the Republicans want to win the White House this year, then Cruz and Kasich must back out and endorse Trump. Kasich isn't popular enough. Cruz is an unelectable member of the religious right. Trump is the only candidate with a real grassroots system and support from the middle class. No one cares about the stuff Cruz cares about. No one likes the party elite. Trump is the only one who can put up a real fight. If it's a contested convention, and Trump doesn't get it, the party effectively cucked itself to the democrats and we'll have a Hillary presidency. We'll see a map of blue on election night if Ted Scruz is the republican. The question is do you want to hand it to Hillary before it started or do you want a serious chance?

    The one where I'm tired of being beaten at the trading post, being threatened by Islamic extremism, letting people just waltz over our border. That world.

    Let me see if I can get the logic straight here. YOU, not all, but YOU are tired of being beaten at the trading post, threatened by Islamic extremism, and letting people just waltz over our border. Cruz is the only unelectable GOP candidate? Trump is the only candidate with a real grassroots system? Trump is the only candidate with support from the middle class? Zero people care about the stuff Cruz cares about? Really? Are you saying Cruz is party elite? Trump is the only one who can put up a real fight?

    Q: What friggin' world are you ​living in????

    You didn't answer the question. What world are you living in where Trump is all those things? Earth 11?
     
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