"Ready for Hillary 2016"

[funeralweb]

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see conservatives gaining enough ground to push back the liberal momentum any time soon. The MSM is happy to lead the multi-front war on conservative values, continually distracting the sheeple with meaningless garbage while our elected leaders hammer away at our freedom. Granting civil rights to racial minorities and equal rights to women were good and necessary actions but we should have stopped there. Today, illegals are no longer illegal, we can marry just about anything with a pulse in some states - and it seems to be spreading - and elsewhere you can walk down the street smoking a fattie but you can't possess a 30 caliber clip per second thingy. Now that we're all equal but separate (I think that's much different than separate but equal) no group is gonna upset their apple cart to benefit any other group. That's how Hillary wins hands down, unless the opportunity for a third term somehow comes into play. If that happens, possession will be 0.9 of the (new) law.

 

[spec4]

Maybe we need to go all the way down before we can come back up. The incompetent criminal Clinton will speed up the process.

 

[indyjohn]

Gloom and doom for the American Conservatives. I don't buy it and I won't accept it. The liberal way has not improved my life and in some ways has degraded it. Those that have suffered from this administration's policy and actions are growing in number. THOSE are the people that can be mobilized to vote Hillary out.

And ALL OF US have to vote this time too!

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

And ALL OF US have to vote this time too!

Present us with a worthy candidate, simply having an R next to your name won't be enough to get my vote.

 

[dshaf]

Present us with a worthy candidate, simply having an R next to your name won't be enough to get my vote.

I agree! I sure hope Sarah Palin gets no FaceTime in the next election. I hate puking

 

[Fred78]

After all that has happened it would seem that about the only way the republican party can lose is if they don't want to win. Mitt Romney good heavens.

 

[indyjohn]

Present us with a worthy candidate, simply having an R next to your name won't be enough to get my vote.

But does this mean you won't vote for a Republican or you just won't vote at all? The latter is just not acceptable.

In the 2008 election, only 65% of eligible voters did. I don't have the capacity to comprehend that almost 40% of the adult population of the U.S. "just couldn't get there" on election day. If there was an 85% turnout, we would then know better what the majority of Americans really think.

On the topic of "worthy candidate", what would it take for that person to be "more worthy" than the one that won the office?

 

[PistolBob]

Pro Life, Pro 2A, Pro family Sarah Palin will get my vote against any gun grabbing lesbos of the left...anytime.

 

[deal me in]

But does this mean you won't vote for a Republican or you just won't vote at all? The latter is just not acceptable.

In the 2008 election, only 65% of eligible voters did. I don't have the capacity to comprehend that almost 40% of the adult population of the U.S. "just couldn't get there" on election day. If there was an 85% turnout, we would then know better what the majority of Americans really think.

On the topic of "worthy candidate", what would it take for that person to be "more worthy" than the one that won the office?

I haven't voted for awhile because it doesn't make any difference. I wish more people would stop voting so that our electoral process could be seen for the farce that it is. All voting does is communicate that you are happy with the status quo and pleased with your political overlords. Why am I wrong?

 

[indyjohn]

Why am I wrong?

Because you live in a Democracy. Non participation is a lame excuse for disliking the process in place. 10 million "it doesn't make any difference anyway" citizens secured Obama's win in 2008. Congratulations for being a perfect example of what the Libs want you to be - politically impotent.

Casting a vote is your opportunity to voice your dislike for the Electoral College. If you don't vote, shut up and get in line for your entitlements.

 

[scootn103]

Another 4 years of a like minded person or possibly 8 more . Wow no one cares period...

 

[buckstopshere]

Because you live in a Democracy. Non participation is a lame excuse for disliking the process in place. 10 million "it doesn't make any difference anyway" citizens secured Obama's win in 2008. Congratulations for being a perfect example of what the Libs want you to be - politically impotent.

Casting a vote is your opportunity to voice your dislike for the Electoral College. If you don't vote, shut up and get in line for your entitlements.

I hear what you're saying although how can you be sure that life would be any different if we had a President McCain? The guy was just censured by the AZ GOP for being too liberal. As far as Romney goes, there is little more than an ounce of difference between him and Obama. Just like there was an ounce of difference between Obama and McCain.

That is not a defense of Obama. He's a fascist piece of trash IMO. I just feel that Romney, McCain, Christie are also fascist pieces of trash as well. I can see how folks get fed up and abstain from voting. To me, there is a difference between an informed non-voter and an uninformed non-voter. Voting isn't the only way to bring about change. In fact, voting hasn't brought about much, if any, good change in the last 20 years, maybe longer.

Idk, I abstain from giving a yea vote to either mafia family, D or R. If I can't find a candidate that I would say yea to, I won't vote for them. I haven't missed a vote since I was 18 but I did not vote for Indiana Governor as I didn't like any of the candidates.

Voting is an individual matter and should be left to the individual to decide for themselves what they wish to do with it. We live in a Republic which should mean that the Constitution is what governors our representatives, not the whims of the voting majority on either side. We fight for individual liberties but when an individual makes a voting decision we don't like we immediately move into this collective mindset. I've been guilty of that myself but I'm working on it.

 

[deal me in]

Because you live in a Democracy. Non participation is a lame excuse for disliking the process in place. 10 million "it doesn't make any difference anyway" citizens secured Obama's win in 2008. Congratulations for being a perfect example of what the Libs want you to be - politically impotent.

Casting a vote is your opportunity to voice your dislike for the Electoral College. If you don't vote, shut up and get in line for your entitlements.

We don't live in a democracy. We are supposed to live in a republic, but we actually live in an oligarchy. Voting won't change that. Voting for the big govt red team over the big govt blue team doesn't appeal to me either. I wish all of you voters would see the light and stop supporting and enabling the corruption through your participation.

 

[indyjohn]

In post #44 ZombieApocolypse said "give me a worthy candidate" and he has a valid point. I don't know if in the past few years we've just been dry in the pipeline or there is some sort of infighting within the senior leadership or what. And yes, we can speculate all night if things would be different or not. In fact after doing some research, I'm glad McCain was not put in office. Romney, not sure one way or the other.

But as I progress through this thread I find myself more concerned with the 'deal me in's of the world. Good, bad, or ugly, people need to vote. If you don't think one vote is valuable, then move to North Korea.

 

[indyjohn]

And then there is this little nugget.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...s-policy-premium-more-than-doubled-yours.html

I'm certain this guy will be voting in the next presidential election.

 

[deal me in]

In post #44 ZombieApocolypse said "give me a worthy candidate" and he has a valid point. I don't know if in the past few years we've just been dry in the pipeline or there is some sort of infighting within the senior leadership or what. And yes, we can speculate all night if things would be different or not. In fact after doing some research, I'm glad McCain was not put in office. Romney, not sure one way or the other.

But as I progress through this thread I find myself more concerned with the 'deal me in's of the world. Good, bad, or ugly, people need to vote. If you don't think one vote is valuable, then move to North Korea.

Let's examine this. You claim voting is all important and that everyone should vote. You also claim that you're glad McCain wasn't elected. Does this mean that if you could go back in time you would vote for Obama? Still waiting for a good reason to vote. Telling me I should move to North Korea doesn't count.

 

[spec4]

IMO, none of us will ever see the perfect candidate. The vote comes down to being a defensive measure; using your vote to keep a liberal from office. I know for the next three years we will hear from many who say D & R, no difference. Hard to reason with that mentality and if a person truly believes that then I can understand why they don't vote. I hope all those who sat home in 2012 are pleased with the results.

Look up the recent Senate vote on the UN disarmament treaty. NO GOP Senators voted for it, ALL the yea votes were Dems or so called I's (The true whores).

 

[indyjohn]

Let's examine this. You claim voting is all important and that everyone should vote. You also claim that you're glad McCain wasn't elected. Does this mean that if you could go back in time you would vote for Obama? Still waiting for a good reason to vote. Telling me I should move to North Korea doesn't count.

Yes! Let's. Voting IS important and everyone should vote. Yes, after further review I am glad McCain wasn't elected. Heavens NO! I would not vote for Obama, I would have voted LP. You have every good reason in front of you. And yes, telling you to move to North Korea counts. Or Syria, or Mali, or Nigeria, or Somalia, or Sudan. Those citizens don't have the luxury you, me, and the rest of this country's citizens enjoy in the "chance" to voice your individual opinion on how the country should be run.

So, I did a little research. It seems that your favorite pastimes on INGO is trolling around the politics section and generally stepping in the middle of threads to complain about the government in general, the Libertarian and Republican party specifically, and anyone who believes that there is still hope for this country and change for the true betterment of society will eventually take place.

Your brand of angry sir was not the demographic I was going for when starting this thread. I don't have a pill for you.

 

[OkieGirl]

Let's examine this. You claim voting is all important and that everyone should vote. You also claim that you're glad McCain wasn't elected. Does this mean that if you could go back in time you would vote for Obama? Still waiting for a good reason to vote. Telling me I should move to North Korea doesn't count.

It's simple. We live in a democracy only so far as it's citizens choose to participate. If you choose not to participate that is your right, simply move your chair to the back of the room and keep your mouth shut. You have an opportunity to have a say when the elections roll around, if you choose not to participate I see no point in your opinion mattering in this venue any more than it did during an election.

 

[TheRude1]

It's simple. We live in a democracy only so far as it's citizens choose to participate. If you choose not to participate that is your right, simply move your chair to the back of the room and keep your mouth shut. You have an opportunity to have a say when the elections roll around, if you choose not to participate I see no point in your opinion mattering in this venue any more than it did during an election.

***Sorry to dig up a oldie*** But it seems this silly ars answer was never addressed
Tell ya what. YOU find the word "DEMOCRACY" in the Constitution and I will shave my nut sack with a straight razor and put it on Youtube ! You dont know JACK about the U.S.A. if that is what you have to say. WE as a nation are a (ILL TYPE THIS SLOW FOR YOU) REPUBLIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We as a STATE are a democracy when we vote for local offices but the nation is a Republic.
1. Really read the Constitution
2. Read the Federalist papers
3. Read the Magna carta
4. Soak it in and realize the truth or you can just move to Cuba and enjoy yourself. The nation has been warped but its clef stone is still alive and straight.

Friggen public schools ! And if you went to a private school your parents DID NOT get what they paid for
Get your head out of your center of gravity. This is not Starbucks and you are not surrounded by socialist

And P.S. if you can find the phrase "Separation of church and state" in the constitution my offer stands with the straight razor