Rally in Indy on 1/19/14

[turnandshoot4]

Evidently there is a rally in Indy on Sunday. Anyone else heard about this? Anyone going?

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[Kirk Freeman]

Who is this organization?

What is the purpose of the rally?

 

[rockhopper46038]

I've been wondering if I'd see a post on this. Gun Rights Across America (GRAA) is the organizer. Don't know much about them. This is apparently the 2nd year for this rally.

 

[voodoo304]

Well it's not for the Colts. So for Peyton maybe?

 

[the1kidd03]

It's the same thing that took place last year (is my understanding.) Their intent is to make it annual it seems.

I think it's funny how a group is trying to list themselves as "an organizer" when it didn't seem that there was ANY real organization that went on beyond a group of people standing up for their beliefs meeting at one place. Just a PR stunt in that regard to get "their name out there" but it was a good effort last year which is why so many showed up. This year it won't be the case because it is not such an imminent threat to their rights.

 

[ratfortman]

It's the same thing that took place last year (is my understanding.) Their intent is to make it annual it seems.

I think it's funny how a group is trying to list themselves as "an organizer" when it didn't seem that there was ANY real organization that went on beyond a group of people standing up for their beliefs meeting at one place. Just a PR stunt in that regard to get "their name out there" but it was a good effort last year which is why so many showed up. This year it won't be the case because it is not such an eminent threat to their rights.

eminent:means standing above others in quality or position
imminent: about to happen, occur, or take place very soon

 

[the1kidd03]

eminent:means standing above others in quality or position
imminent: about to happen, occur, or take place very soon

Thanks. I stand corrected. I thought there was a distinction, but I didn't bother to check. That's what I get for laziness.

 

[KellyinAvon]

As the "organizer", they need to get the word out better. Just sayin...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

As the "organizer", they need to get the word out better. Just sayin...

Yeah, I'd never heard of it until I'd ran across this thread.

 

[ratfortman]

It's the same thing that took place last year (is my understanding.) Their intent is to make it annual it seems.

I think it's funny how a group is trying to list themselves as "an organizer" when it didn't seem that there was ANY real organization that went on beyond a group of people standing up for their beliefs meeting at one place. Just a PR stunt in that regard to get "their name out there" but it was a good effort last year which is why so many showed up. This year it won't be the case because it is not such an imminent threat to their rights.

Sorry, thekidd03, about the grammar nazi post. I'm usually not that guy, I promise!
I was there last year after a few hours at the Indy1500. It was a good,lively crowd. I believe that there was some local media coverage, and if I'm not mistaken, one of the INGO leaders was interviewed (QUE?).
I hate to see events like this characterized as "just a PR stunt". It's at the least a chance to put feet on the ground and express your opinion. Does it do any good? Perhaps not, but you would be surprised at how good it feels to do something like this. Had several very enjoyable conversations with some like minded, articulate folks. If nothing else, it lets folks know that they are not alone.
Make up a sign, give it a try. I bet you will enjoy yourself

 

[the1kidd03]

Sorry, thekidd03, about the grammar nazi post. I'm usually not that guy, I promise!
I was there last year after a few hours at the Indy1500. It was a good,lively crowd. I believe that there was some local media coverage, and if I'm not mistaken, one of the INGO leaders was interviewed (QUE?).
I hate to see events like this characterized as "just a PR stunt". It's at the least a chance to put feet on the ground and express your opinion. Does it do any good? Perhaps not, but you would be surprised at how good it feels to do something like this. Had several very enjoyable conversations with some like minded, articulate folks. If nothing else, it lets folks know that they are not alone.
Make up a sign, give it a try. I bet you will enjoy yourself

I agree. I was referring to it being a PR stunt for a relatively new and unheard of group labeling it with their name to increase exposure, not necessarily the event itself. The event itself was excellent.

People last year came out because they felt it needed to be done with the current (at that time) threat to their rights they were presented with. Almost nobody mentioned, heard of, or talked about this "organizing" group. There was no organization to be had. No money was spent to give out free signs. No sign in sheets, tables for petition signatures, etc. were in sight. There was nothing TO organize. Hence, nobody was responsible for anything, yet a group is trying to stake claim to that effort. Hence, a "PR stunt" for their group.

This year the turnout will not be that good. Because people don't feel the threat to their rights is as serious as it was last year. Meaning, they came together for the cause, not because some group said to.

 

[the1kidd03]

I really wish gun owners around NY and surrounding states would rally against the confiscation efforts. I doubt they will however. Divide and conquer. One state at a time.

 

[ratfortman]

I agree. I was referring to it being a PR stunt for a relatively new and unheard of group labeling it with their name to increase exposure, not necessarily the event itself. The event itself was excellent.

People last year came out because they felt it needed to be done with the current (at that time) threat to their rights they were presented with. Almost nobody mentioned, heard of, or talked about this "organizing" group. There was no organization to be had. No money was spent to give out free signs. No sign in sheets, tables for petition signatures, etc. were in sight. There was nothing TO organize. Hence, nobody was responsible for anything, yet a group is trying to stake claim to that effort. Hence, a "PR stunt" for their group.

This year the turnout will not be that good. Because people don't feel the threat to their rights is as serious as it was last year. Meaning, they came together for the cause, not because some group said to.

Yep, when I showed up at noon, I wondered if i had the wrong date/location. You are right, there wasn't anything in terms of organization. What surprised me is how quickly it went from that to a big, active, sometimes loud crowd. Without any attempts at structure it became something that people nearby could not avoid. That was cool
You are probably right about the turnout for this year. I plan to go. Will give you a report!

 

[DRob]

I really wish gun owners around NY and surrounding states would rally against the confiscation efforts. I doubt they will however. Divide and conquer. One state at a time.

For those who are obviously unaware, there is a very active movement against the NY Safe Act. I have an acquaintance who is a Sgt. with NYPD so I get regular updates on NY. There are suits pending, rallies, protests, and several county sheriffs who have announced they refuse to enforce the new law. This may give you a sense of the their situation.....http://www.nysrpa.org/

As for GRAA.......their announcement is pretty generic. "High noon at your state capitol building". C'mon GRAA. Are you going to have a representative there or are you just fishing?

 

[turnandshoot4]

I am going to be there.

I have no idea how they didn't post this on the largest community board in Indiana. It would seem they have some issues with coordination.

 

[Prometheus]

I am going to be there.

I have no idea how they didn't post this on the largest community board in Indiana. It would seem they have some issues with coordination.

I just heard the person tasked with Indiana had a death in their family and they dropped off. In any case, it's odd their presence elsewhere didn't have more reach. I'm going to try to make it.

 

[Waylon]

GRAA

Hello All,

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Waylon Montague, Ret. Army, and while I do live in Texas my interest is not just in the state of TX but all of the great U.S. of A. I am an active member of the Gun Rights Across America, referred to as GRAA, Board of Directors. It would seem by many of your posts that there is a misunderstanding of who and what GRAA is. GRAA was started from the mind of one man, Eric Reed, who had enough of our rights as lawful firearm owners being abused. GRAA is made up of all volunteers, there are no paid persons here. These volunteers, such as myself and my wife (GRAA Vice President) devote many hours to GRAA in the hopes of making a positive change. Yes it is true, GRAA is a company. Yes it is true there are paid memberships. Yes it is true, that the GRAA President/Founder has still not been able to recover the amount of funds he has invested. He, along with many of us front the funds out of our very own pockets because we believe that even a small change is a good change. GRAA was formed to be an avenue for people to truly voice their thoughts on the topic of firearms and firearm laws. GRAA is involved with its followers and will continue to do so. The first event we had "Guns Across America" was not designed to be a "PR" stunt. GRAA is not out for the fame, we are not here to be some "Hollywood" star who is all talk. We are active, we do our best to keep people informed of laws and proposals. Are there flaws with our system, yes, as we do not have volunteers to help with 50 states. Sometimes it seems as though people do not care enough to help give time to protect their rights by helping organize events or even manage social media pages..not intended to offend anyone. Another reason GRAA is active is because as firearms owners we are all a "family" so to say, we can not let our brothers and sisters in other states be "bullied" by unlawful and unenforceable laws. For myself, my oath was to the Constitution of the United States of America, not just to Texas, that is why I fight for all states. I dislike having to leave this forum for now but being that it is Saturday I have a family I would like to spend time with. Being that I found this thread today, I hope this reaches most of you before the event. If any of you have any questions please look us up, we have pages on most of the mainstream social media sites. You can also contact me directly at waylor.r.montague@gmail.com I ask as a firearm owner that you attend our event, if it is not up to your standards then I apologize. Maybe if you do not like the event then you yourself can join GRAA and attempt to turn your states events into something "worthwhile". Thank you and good day to you all. "The voice of one patriot is louder than any tyrant" GRAA VP-Shannon Montague

 

[Andy219]

I wish I would have heard of this sooner. Not sure if I can make it.

 

[SERparacord]

Just in time for the next polar vortex.

 

[artesianjack]

Sorry, haven't heard anything from here.............