Pentagon Tracking Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over the US

[BugI02]

This was a deliberate provocation by the ChiComs IMO to test the decision-making process. There was no legitimate reason to do so otherwise they would have sought cooperation first before they floated it over this way If it was for legit scientific reasons as they claimed. How would they react if we had just gone over there and done the same thing?

Have you considered that maybe we already have?

 

[singlestacksig]

Somewhere there is a F-22 getting a China balloon decal under his cockpit. 4 more and he’s an ace!

 

[BugI02]

My point is the bald statement without ANY support that "it's completely under control via EW measures" is very presumptuous. Maybe we were actively jamming any emissions, maybe we were passively monitoring. Who knows.

I'm sure we have the capability, if the assets are available and can be moved in place to do so. But I've seen nothing that would make me conclude that "it's completely under control via EW measures"?

D'accord

 

[Route 45]

Unless is was something other than a sidewinder(as claimed) I do not believe we shot it down.

 

[Quiet Observer]

This version makes more sense to me.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Unless is was something other than a sidewinder(as claimed) I do not believe we shot it down.
Why? 50,000 service ceiling of an f-22(lets give it some leeway and say 60k) that is still a FIN guided missile (ie needs air to steer) flying up 7.5 MORE miles to 100,000 feet(likely a lot longer as I doubt it was fired straight up). Even the aim9x(newest) uses the same solid rocket engine developed in 1983,it does not have the ability to steer with the engine. Clearly something brought it down based on images. No way I believe the sidewinder story. Also,at that altitude a cannon or any round propelled by gun powder would have almost no velocity(very little air for the powder to burn in),then again they do not understand the F-22 can not go that high. I see idiots saying the F-22 should have shot it down with their cannon(to save the $400,000 a sidewinder costs). sigh. Logic,reason,and knowledge seem to not be a part of most of these conversations.


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Video of the shot. Comes from the lower left and exists upper right.

Gunpowder does not need ambient oxygen to burn. Potassium Nitrate (KNO3) provides the oxygen.

 

[indyblue]

Also,at that altitude a cannon or any round propelled by gun powder would have almost no velocity(very little air for the powder to burn in)

That is not true. Solid propellants have everything they need to burn and do not need air to burn. In fact the lack of air density would make the rocket fly faster than if it was launched from the ground.

 

[pitbulld45]

Canada should have destroyed it before it even crossed the US border.

Why do that when they could put it on the US.?

 

[oze]

This version makes more sense to me.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Unless is was something other than a sidewinder(as claimed) I do not believe we shot it down.
Why? 50,000 service ceiling of an f-22(lets give it some leeway and say 60k) that is still a FIN guided missile (ie needs air to steer) flying up 7.5 MORE miles to 100,000 feet(likely a lot longer as I doubt it was fired straight up). Even the aim9x(newest) uses the same solid rocket engine developed in 1983,it does not have the ability to steer with the engine. Clearly something brought it down based on images. No way I believe the sidewinder story. Also,at that altitude a cannon or any round propelled by gun powder would have almost no velocity(very little air for the powder to burn in),then again they do not understand the F-22 can not go that high. I see idiots saying the F-22 should have shot it down with their cannon(to save the $400,000 a sidewinder costs). sigh. Logic,reason,and knowledge seem to not be a part of most of these conversations.


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Video of the shot. Comes from the lower left and exists upper right.

Just a coupla things:

• At the time of shoot down the altitude of the F-22 was 58,000 feet, the balloon was between 60 and 65,000 feet
• Are the Chinese and their Western spokesmodels saying that the balloon that flew through Columbian airspace was also a kooky but harmless weather balloon?
• The article refers to Western news media as the "anti-China press". I thought that they were pro-China, given Hollywood and the NBA, for example, wanting to protect that market. I thought we on the right were supposed to be "anti-China".
• Gunpowder

 

[KellyinAvon]

Let me see if I've got this straight. The guy who took off for 4 months during the California sea-ports debacle... and no one noticed... says the balloon Charlie Foxtrot was handled appropriately. No that does not increase my confidence in this administration.

Pete Buttigieg says Biden handled Chinese spy balloon 'appropriately' amid backlash from Republicans​

Pete Buttigieg says Biden handled Chinese spy balloon 'appropriately' amid backlash from Republicans

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg came to President Biden's defense on Sunday when asked about the Chinese spy balloon, saying it was "handled appropriately."

www.foxnews.com

 

[Alamo]

 

[Leadeye]

Let me see if I've got this straight. The guy who took off for 4 months during the California sea-ports debacle... and no one noticed... says the balloon Charlie Foxtrot was handled appropriately. No that does not increase my confidence in this administration.

Pete Buttigieg says Biden handled Chinese spy balloon 'appropriately' amid backlash from Republicans​

Pete Buttigieg says Biden handled Chinese spy balloon 'appropriately' amid backlash from Republicans

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg came to President Biden's defense on Sunday when asked about the Chinese spy balloon, saying it was "handled appropriately."

www.foxnews.com

Pete certainly is keeping visible, you would think he was running for president already.

 

[Route 45]

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I wouldn't exactly say that "nobody cares."

There's Growing Momentum in Congress to Take On TikTok—And Some Want to Ban It Entirely

Two of Washington’s staunchest China hawks introduced legislation that would prohibit users from downloading TikTok on all U.S. devices.

time.com

 

[Twangbanger]

While we're talking about spy balloons, probably important to mention the US Government is already doing this to you with OPTICAL CAMERAS as part of the "drug war:"

https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/s...ross-the-country-to-track-people-s-movements/

 

[Ingomike]

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And not a SINGLE mention I have seen in this thread about CCP efforts to control weather.

Scientists Say They Caught China Successfully Changing the Weather

China has succeeded in literally changing the weather, a new study claims.

futurism.com

 

[bwframe]

Pete certainly is keeping visible, you would think he was running for president already.

I just hope they let Joe finish his term. Imagine the alternative? You think it's bad now...


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[HoosierLife]

She has really let herself go.

 

[Shadow01]

I just hope they let Joe finish his term. Imagine the alternative? You think it's bad now...


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Come on now, you know this country deserves to have kamala at the helm…

 

[BigMoose]

The tin foil hatter crowd here is strong today.

 

[BigMoose]

Here is the -real- non partisan scoop on the shootdown.



Here are the cliffs notes.

They used an AIM-9X with the warhead inert or removed.

The AIM-9X can track the balloon, not through heat (as the old Vietnam and 80s ones did), but through IR cameras and designation in the cockpit, the sensor is basically an IR camera now, you use the designator to mark the target and it goes and hits it. No more growl in the pilots ear.

Elint assets were jamming the thing so it could not "ET phone home" to China. ALL THE WAY. ELINT was also listening to the thing talk RF wise.

The intel gathered by the US on this thing is valuable.

The US Navy is going to pick up the remnants.

Biden is an idiot, but the USAF knows what the hell they are doing.

Sorry to rain on the parade of the Tin Foil Hatter crew here.

 

[Ingomike]

The tin foil hatter crowd here is strong today.

You should quote them and correct the record…