Paris Burns...

[Platycqb]

I got my wires crossed, the quote I mentioned was Hollande in 2012 not Marcon in 2017. Oops.

But yeah, SSDD in socialist paradise.

Hollande, Macron, it’s very similar, except the age/generation.
Macron had a ministry under Hollande. People had the time to size him up, but still voted for him.
Though I agree, there are probably some of his voters among the current protestors.
It’s ironic at best.

 

[bwframe]

Sounds like we should be using fire hoses down on the border also?

 

[patience0830]

Sounds like we should be using fire hoses down on the border also?

Is it cold enough for that yet?

 

[jamil]

There was no fine print, it was in big, bold letters.

We were in Spain when Marcon was elected. Right there on TV it said "Marcon promises more govt spending, if elected". Wife and I were like, wtf and were surprised when he was elected.

ETA: I incorrectly attributed the "more govt spending quote" to Marcon, but the actual quote I saw was for Hollande in an earlier election. But, birds of a feather and all...

Nevertheless, people want more government spending because the money for government spending grows on the government spending tree and doesn't come from their pockets.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Nevertheless, people want more government spending because the money for government spending grows on the government spending tree and doesn't come from their pockets.

Taxation on thee means spending for me.

 

[Crittersdad]

The price hike of gas in Paris is due to the carbon tax in the Paris climate accords.

The same would be happening here if President Trump had not pulled us out of the accords

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Flaring up again (or continuing)...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/wor...n-citys-worst-violence-in-years-a4005966.html

 

[jamil]

I've been hearing reports that many of the people protesting are people who don't usually protest. The carbon taxes are hitting them particularly hard and it's got them pissed.

Sylvain, can you update us on that? What's your sense about the protests? Are they beginning to look a bit beyond the usual, or is it just ordinary French stuff? What's your take on carbon taxes? Worth it? Not? Bilking the public for very little in return? I tend to believe the latter.

 

[actaeon277]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/frances-macron-learns-hard-way-green-taxes-carry-100554787--business.html
France's Macron learns the hard way: green taxes carry political risks

Macron's plight illustrates a conundrum: How do political leaders' introduce policies that will do long-term good for the environment without inflicting extra costs on voters that may damage their chances of re-election?

The protests in France have inspired a similar movement in neighboring Belgium, where protesters took to the streets on Friday.
There have also been small-scale protests in Canada over Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's plan to impose a federal carbon tax on provinces unwilling to combat climate change.
What was once widely seen by governments as a win-win transition to cleaner energies now looks more like causing short-term costs with huge social disruption, followed by possible long-run gains.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/frances-macron-learns-hard-way-green-taxes-carry-100554787--business.html
France's Macron learns the hard way: green taxes carry political risks

Macron's plight illustrates a conundrum: How do political leaders' introduce policies that will do long-term good for the environment without inflicting extra costs on voters that may damage their chances of re-election?

The protests in France have inspired a similar movement in neighboring Belgium, where protesters took to the streets on Friday.
There have also been small-scale protests in Canada over Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's plan to impose a federal carbon tax on provinces unwilling to combat climate change.
What was once widely seen by governments as a win-win transition to cleaner energies now looks more like causing short-term costs with huge social disruption, followed by possible long-run gains.

Sounds like the "woke" are getting awakened by reality hitting them in their wallets.

 

[actaeon277]

People in France vote for big government. So.. they get big government.

 

[Thor]

And in 'Merica where we've pulled out of the Paris Accord it's to work as usual.

 

[Sylvain]

I've been hearing reports that many of the people protesting are people who don't usually protest. The carbon taxes are hitting them particularly hard and it's got them pissed.

Sylvain, can you update us on that? What's your sense about the protests? Are they beginning to look a bit beyond the usual, or is it just ordinary French stuff? What's your take on carbon taxes? Worth it? Not? Bilking the public for very little in return? I tend to believe the latter.

Sorry, I have been busy not rioting.

Are you asking if the violence seen in those protests (with a bit of rioting on the side) is worst than usual? A few cars have been burns, banks too ... but it's usually stuff.
Each each to "celebrate" the new year, on decembre 31st, hundreds of cars are set on fire everywhere in France (but mostly around Paris) ... same thing when they win the world cup.
So so far it's not worst than usual.

They are supposed to protest again next Saturday for a fourth time on the Champs Elysées.
This time the protest was not authorized there and they had check points to search people entering the avenue.
But apparently a lot of folks who came here to destroy stuff managed to hide tools and weapons the day before.
They had crow bars and grinders to attack some banks.
Also slingshots and steel ball bearing to attack the police.

They might have more weapons next time as it was just recently reported that a gun was stolen Saturday during the protest.
Apparently they broke into a police van and stole an H&K G36 ... not sure if they had magazines and ammo with it, and not sure if they didn't take more than just one gun.

Our anti-riot police carry a lot of weaponry (submachine guns, G36 rifles, .308 "sniper rifle" and even machine guns) on top of their siderarms, should they be faced by groups armed with firearms and not just stones.

While they just use tear gas and batons all those guns stay in vans parked nearby.

Things will get nasty if someone shows up with this stolen gun next Saturday.

 

[Sylvain]

What's your take on carbon taxes? Worth it? Not? Bilking the public for very little in return? I tend to believe the latter.

I'm not an economist or an expert on climate.
I couldn't tell you if it's a good thing or a bad thing.
It all depends what you do with the money raised by the tax I guess.

Is it used to pay off the national day or is it used to pay for wind turbines and solar panels?

 

[miguel]

I don't know who is rioting and why, but saw this and thought it was funny. But I'm a contrarian...

 

[Leadeye]

Things like this can happen when people get unhappy about their leadership seeing itself as players on a larger stage instead of representing the people who elected them.

 

[indiucky]

 

[Mikey1911]

“Contre nous, de la tyrannie
L’étendard de “Global Climate Change” est levé . . .”

 

[Trigger Time]

lol

The yellow vest for prostitutes is in Spain, not France!

I'm against making special semi-auto versions for civilians, only because I believe you should be able to buy the full-auto version of any modern gun.
"Shall not be infringed" is pretty clear, even for someone who speaks English as a second language.

Well damn now I have to cancel my plane tickets to France and rebook to Spain

Yep same for me buddy. Pretty damn clear.

 

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