Omar of MN

[churchmouse]

They keep the masses uneducated so they can be easily manipulated. If you cannot read then you can not disprove anything you are told.

 

[PistolBob]

To me it is a simple process when electing officials: look at who they are and what they stand for and ask yourself "do I want this person to have control over my children and grandchildren?" and then cast my vote...

Her district was crammed full of Somali Muslims ( alleged refugees ) by Obama....The DNC has over 90 Muslims lined up to run for congress in 2020.

 

[JettaKnight]

I do not need to know anything beside the fact that they are wrong.

Their actions tell me everything I need to know.

I'm sure you're a great witness.

No. Just no! You READ IT that way.

My point was, they fervently do as the Quran tells them to do. Never said there was anything WRONG about it.

OK.

I wonder how many Muslims in America observe that practice.

Maybe there Imam reads it to them, IDK. What I do know ​is, I give up on you people. Ya'll are acting stupid the last couple days.

Oh come on man.......The Imams tell them what to do. Makes it so much easier.

They keep the masses uneducated so they can be easily manipulated. If you cannot read then you can not disprove anything you are told.

True. Therein lies the problem.

 

[ditcherman]

I hope you're not leaning toward the trope that we [allow me the liberty of using that term] are just as guilty as they are, because bad deeds in the past can be attributed to people claiming allegiance to superficially similar ideas and whose decisions and actions we cannot now affect did something considered reprehensible by modern standards.

The 'by modern standards' is the important concept. If you are judging us by modern standards rather than, say, 12th century standards; then you must judge them so as well. Although we had a near 7 century headstart on civilizing our religion, we will not be giving them until 2648 to get their act together - modern standards will not allow it

Not sure I know what you are asking but will try to answer; on a personal level I would say that I used to be as guilty as they are, but I am now forgiven, and they are not, yet. I probably do not intrinsically understand enough about history to grasp what you are getting at judging someone be modern standards compared to ancient, you may have to break it down Barney style if you want me to understand. Or not, up to you. (no smartalec tone intended here!) When I wrote about the herd mentality I was strictly thinking about her modern locale, and how her constituents could act or project a certain attitude that would be worse than an individual relationship, and how that large people group could be controlled, or perceived.

 

[2A_Tom]

I'm sure you're a great witness.

Thanks.

 

[ditcherman]

I have never read 1 verse in the Koran, other than something someone posted here.

And now you feel dirty. And now you might have to kill everyone in the room.

 

[ditcherman]

Then I guess the important question should be, can you proselytize effectively from within condition orange

As long as they are quick decision makers it should work out fine.

 

[printcraft]

I wonder how many Muslims in America observe that practice.

7-10%

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/

https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress....of-the-worlds-muslims-are-radicals-heres-why/

 

[2A-Hoosier23]

Oh come on man.......The Imams tell them what to do. Makes it so much easier.

That's exactly my point. They can't think for themselves. They are manipulated by mullahs turned politicians/warlords. They are not taking the Qu'ran's words, they are listening to a politician's interpretation of them.

 

[JettaKnight]

7-10%

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/

https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress....of-the-worlds-muslims-are-radicals-heres-why/

More specific to prayer, this Pew study says only 42% pray all five times* a day. 40% pray less than daily.
This study shows that the number of people saying religion is very important to them is almost the same for Christians and Muslims ~67%

But ignore all that variability. We're stupid if we don't see them as all doing the same thing and believing the same thing.


* Note, there are five daily prayer times, not six.

 

[2A-Hoosier23]

I do not need to know anything beside the fact that they are wrong.

Their actions tell me everything I need to know.

But the source of those actions is crucial to the discussion at hand. Is it from the texts, or is it from a corrupt preacher manipulating interpretations of that text to suit their political ambitions? The answer determines the "solution"/next action to try and minimize the problem, doesn't it? If it's the text itself then it can be determined that the problem is with Islam itself. If it's the preachers then the problem is with Muslims, not Islam.

Case in point, Westboro Baptist, abortion clinic bombers, etc. Is the problem with the Bible (or any other scripture)? Or is the problem with those groups' corrupt interpretations of the texts? And doesn't the obvious answer of corrupt interpretation result in our course of action, which is not blaming the Bible, or thinking all other Christians are complicit in their corrupt interpretation, and instead, blaming only the extremists?

 

[rhino]

They keep the masses uneducated so they can be easily manipulated. If you cannot read then you can not disprove anything you are told.

Ah, so they're copying our government schools now? Effective!

 

[JettaKnight]

Can we expand this thread cover Rashida Tlaib?

There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people's passports, And, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And, I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right, in many ways, but they did it in a way that took their human dignity away and it was forced on them.

W.T.F. Calming?!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashida-tlaib-holocaust-calming-feeling-house-gop

 

[2A-Hoosier23]

Can we expand this thread cover Rashida Tlaib?


W.T.F. Calming?!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashida-tlaib-holocaust-calming-feeling-house-gop

I just read that like 10 times. What the hell. These women have a terrifyingly warped view of well-documented historical events.

 

[2A_Tom]

They hold to the general Islamic view.

As far as being a witness, I have spoken to many Muslims and many Arab non Muslims.

Most of those that called themselves Palestinians told me they would gladly go back and kill Jews.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Can we expand this thread cover Rashida Tlaib?


W.T.F. Calming?!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashida-tlaib-holocaust-calming-feeling-house-gop

Yeah, you know... Some of the Palestinians lost their livelihood and their lives. Kinda like "some people did something" to them. Heck, she said some of them even lost their passports! Can you imagine?? On the other hand, there were 6 million Jews that "some people did something to."

 

[2A_Tom]

[video=youtube;RbQ1zwhnotU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbQ1zwhnotU[/video]

 

[JettaKnight]

To [keep] America from looking like the UK, we shouldn't listen to Katie Hopkins.

 

[2A_Tom]

That is the most incoherent sentence I have ever seen you write.

Tay wut?

 

[JettaKnight]

That is the most incoherent sentence I have ever seen you write.

Tay wut?

You're right - I shouldn't INGO before coffee.

fixed.