Official Trump Attempted Assassination at his Rally Thread

[bwframe]

I saw an aerial photo of the ladder from the day of the event. There was damn sure a ladder. On the back side of the building, the side where the shooter took position to shoot Trump, there's connecting structure between the buildings. There's a ladder that gets you on top of that structure, and then it's easy to get on the roof of the building from there.

There was a video posted earlier of a guy who pieced all the photo evidence together that established who was where, what buildings were involved, where the stage was, where Trump was, etcetera. In those photos you could clearly see the ladder.

There are pics posted in this thread that clearly show a ladder leaning against the building.

I'm just passing along what one gent on the news said.

No idea whether the place the cops needed to hastily access was laddered or not. They might have been accessing from the other side?

I'm sure the details will come out.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

certainly was a ladder.

Official Trump Attempted Assassination at his Rally Thread

10 to 1 "common sense gun control" or an "assault weapons ban" or something along those lines will come up at some point over the next 24 hrs. Oh, and voting will be too dangerous. All voting should be mail in. I'm cool with that. Now where was that printer?

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I wasn't aware Google Maps was a live, real-time platform

 

[smokingman]

I wasn't aware Google Maps was a live, real-time platform

The ladder was not on google maps was the point they tried to make, but it did appear in the drone images from yesterday.

 

[jamil]

Might have been a good idea to have the drones covering the area during the rally. Assuming authorities would have seen the shooter much sooner and acted on it. But I'm not sure we can assume that at this point.

 

[Cameramonkey]

certainly was a ladder.

Official Trump Attempted Assassination at his Rally Thread

10 to 1 "common sense gun control" or an "assault weapons ban" or something along those lines will come up at some point over the next 24 hrs. Oh, and voting will be too dangerous. All voting should be mail in. I'm cool with that. Now where was that printer?

www.indianagunowners.com

Are these people serious?

SO google earth image is likely up to 6 years old. Seriously? You're using that like its near real time spy satellite imagery.

 

[jamil]

Are these people serious?

SO google earth image is likely up to 6 years old. Seriously? You're using that like its near real time spy satellite imagery.

Huh? No, the satellite imagery just shows where the buildings are in relation to each other, which hasn't changed no matter how old are the images. The drone footage from the day of the shooting shows how things were on the day of the shooting.

 

[JAL]

Has anyone ID'ed the rifle/scope the USSS snipers are using yet?

It looks like a bolt action M2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle (ESR) or a minor variant/derivative although I cannot see the stock. Note the magazine. It's using the big stuff. The M2010 is chambered .300 Winchester Magnum with longer range and more punch than the 7.62x51 NATO. I haven't seen the muzzle clearly enough but suspect it's suppressed to reduce the report . . . which will still be quite loud . . . one needs to be able to continue communicating with not only the spotter, in this instance other USSS members. The description of "blew his head off" is undoubtedly a accurate. Still looking at the scope on it which appears to be equivalent to the M2010 photo from 2010 -- 14 years ago.

It appears the scope is a Schmidt Bender 5-25x56 PM [X] in some configuration/variant. That's my best guess as the Guvmint likes to buy them for folks using the M2010 and its variants who need long range. See photo of USSS sniper on rooftop, not the M2010 stock photo from 2010 which has a different scope. I expected it to be a long range variable with huge aperture. These dudes are the ones who train to engage long range out to 1000 meters. The spotter next to him had a different rifle, most likely a semi-auto for medium range and to allow rapid fire . . . which is why it wasn't on a tripod. If it's not the Schmidt Bender it's an equivalent. Two variants of the SB 55-25x56 shown below.

 

[BigRed]

Are these people serious?

SO google earth image is likely up to 6 years old. Seriously? You're using that like its near real time spy satellite imagery.

Inside job.

 

[BigRed]

Huh? No, the satellite imagery just shows where the buildings are in relation to each other, which hasn't changed no matter how old are the images. The drone footage from the day of the shooting shows how things were on the day of the shooting.

Inside job

 

[smokingman]

Here is the long version of people recording the shooter getting into position. You can see one officer headed around the building as well.

 

[BigRed]

Has anyone ID'ed the rifle/scope the USSS snipers are using yet?
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It's the one that cannot be used to pop the patsy until the patsy takes its shot.

 

[JAL]

After 50 years together, most of what Mrs. Rick does that drives me crazy has worn away, so they don't bother me anymore. Her picture-taking abilities, though, can be annoying. She has the oh-so-common habit of waiting until she sees the "perfect picture" framed in the camera before she takes the pic. Obviously, by the time the message gets from the eyeballs to the brain center and down to the fingers, it is no longer perfect. Way past perfect, mostly. I've gently explained to her many times that good picture-taking is anticipatory, and she says she understands. Yet, the next time when she misses her shot, she complains about it. While good luck is certainly a component of quality professional news photography, genuinely great photojournalists have that uncanny sense of what will happen in the next couple of seconds and are well-prepared for it.

Having done "hired gun" event work for a studio in my deep dark past, it's all about prediction and anticipation, watching human behavior and knowing the body language predicting what the subject will do next. With SLRs, if you saw it -- the desired photo -- through the viewfinder -- you didn't get it on the film. Some of the skill came with experience and one had to also anticipate with an SLR the lag time between pressing the shutter release, then the mirror going up, all before the focal plane shutter traveled across the film gate. Measure the lag between shutter press and shutter travel in several tens of milliseconds depending on the SLR, about ~20 mS or so. By comparison, 1/120th second, a common shutter speed, is just a hair over 8 mS.

 

[smokingman]

They even saw the shooter move from the lower roof to the upper one, and alerted police.

 

[JAL]

Another method is to set the camera to burst, and just take a buttload of pics. And then pick out the ones you want.

Doesn't work with an SLR. Too much time between successive shutter travels.

 

[JAL]

So should we assume this is fake??????

"As found on 4chan" should be all you need to know regarding veracity and authenticity.

 

[Tombs]

It appears the scope is a Schmidt Bender 5-25x56 PM [X] in some configuration/variant. That's my best guess as the Guvmint likes to buy them for folks using the M2010 and its variants who need long range. See photo of USSS sniper on rooftop, not the M2010 stock photo from 2010 which has a different scope. I expected it to be a long range variable with huge aperture. These dudes are the ones who train to engage long range out to 1000 meters. The spotter next to him had a different rifle, most likely a semi-auto for medium range and to allow rapid fire . . . which is why it wasn't on a tripod. If it's not the Schmidt Bender it's an equivalent. Two variants of the SB 55-25x56 shown below.

No, it's a nightforce. The magnification adjustment and the illumination dial gives it away.
That gold emblem is nightforce's logo.

The rifles are custom built. Schneider bull barrel, custom remington 700 action, AI chassis. They're either 300WM or 7mm remmag. The builds are commonly referred to as JARs, "Just another rifle." Both of them were using the same builds.

Has been the go-to rifle for SS snipers for a very long time now.

 

[loudgroove]

Team USA's Steve Kerr, Steph Curry Call For Tighter Gun Control In Wake of Trump Assassination Attempt

Steve Kerr and Stephen Curry sounded off on gun control at a time when political violence is the biggest threat to American democracy.

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It's usually on the tongue of every dem by now. But I see it is happening.

 

[ditcherman]

I'm just passing along what one gent on the news said.

No idea whether the place the cops needed to hastily access was laddered or not. They might have been accessing from the other side?

I'm sure the details will come out.

So the lesson here ranges from the extreme of “don’t trust anything Fox News says” to “take everything Fox News says with a grain of salt”.

They’re maybe slightly better than 4chan.

 

[ditcherman]

Language warning



Apparently this guy had the right shutter speed.

 

[actaeon277]

Doesn't work with an SLR. Too much time between successive shutter travels.

With an auto winder, my canon ae1-program got 4 frames per second.
How fast do you need?