The arguments ARE always the same. I have read every post on ingo that I could find on this subject, and that's no light work I don't mind pointing out! I asked about oc myself and was pointed to the sticky thread. It's my impression that while oc is by far in the minority, it is strongly supported by the majority. I feel the same way. I cc for a few reasons, A-To keep a lower profile. B-To keep my gun secure while I am not paying attention and C-To keep guys with expensive raceguns hanging in the breeze from laughing at my cheap, puss little gun that is so easy to carry. Both ways are valid and each works for the person who uses it. It usually starts calmly and rationally (This thread started kind of rough however!) then it quickly degenerates. There is a inherent divide between the two, like personality types that are at opposite ends of the scale. I am curious about the underlying factors that make one extreme view holder different from the other. Let me pose an illustration.... Most of us can act a fool in public, but not too big a fool. more often we act up a bit and then fall in line with society. A small group of others can Stand up in front of the WHOLE crowd and love it, actors, athletes, politicians and the like. Another small group cant stand to be in the spotlight at all, They are VERY conservative and careful. the three groups aren't bad people, just different at a basic level. The oc/cc debate seems similar to me. Some guys are strapped like Matt Dillon and couldn't care less, Most don't like to be obvious but aren't worried if they are discovered to be packing heat. Another few don't want to rock the boat AT ALL. Oc'ers talk about teaching and meeting new people...... The very thing that the cc group is trying to avoid, standing out and drawing attention. The oc'ers can be outspoken and almost militant in their support of oc while cc people talk about the social contract and avoiding conflict or interaction with strangers. The larger "middle" group posts pictures of popcorn and watches the fur flying. In the end the cc group quiets down (in full keeping with their don't make a scene personality traits) and continues doing what they do. The oc group announces loudly their victory (Outgoing, high profile personality traits) and continues what they do. I have to wonder if it is just an extension of type A verses Type B personalities and not about how to behave in public at all.
And yes... it was a very good post by YSYEO.The arguments ARE always the same. I have read every post on ingo that I could find on this subject, and that's no light work I don't mind pointing out!
I asked about oc myself and was pointed to the sticky thread.
It's my impression that while oc is by far in the minority, it is strongly supported by the majority. I feel the same way. I cc for a few reasons, A-To keep a lower profile. B-To keep my gun secure while I am not paying attention and C-To keep guys with expensive raceguns hanging in the breeze from laughing at my cheap, puss little gun that is so easy to carry.
Both ways are valid and each works for the person who uses it. It usually starts calmly and rationally (This thread started kind of rough however!) then it quickly degenerates.
There is a inherent divide between the two, like personality types that are at opposite ends of the scale. I am curious about the underlying factors that make one extreme view holder different from the other.
Let me pose an illustration.... Most of us can act a fool in public, but not too big a fool. more often we act up a bit and then fall in line with society. A small group of others can Stand up in front of the WHOLE crowd and love it, actors, athletes, politicians and the like. Another small group cant stand to be in the spotlight at all, They are VERY conservative and careful. the three groups aren't bad people, just different at a basic level.
The oc/cc debate seems similar to me. Some guys are strapped like Matt Dillon and couldn't care less, Most don't like to be obvious but aren't worried if they are discovered to be packing heat. Another few don't want to rock the boat AT ALL.
Oc'ers talk about teaching and meeting new people...... The very thing that the cc group is trying to avoid, standing out and drawing attention. The oc'ers can be outspoken and almost militant in their support of oc while cc people talk about the social contract and avoiding conflict or interaction with strangers.
The larger "middle" group posts pictures of popcorn and watches the fur flying. In the end the cc group quiets down (in full keeping with their don't make a scene personality traits) and continues doing what they do.
The oc group announces loudly their victory (Outgoing, high profile personality traits) and continues what they do.
I have to wonder if it is just an extension of type A verses Type B personalities and not about how to behave in public at all.
Geez, ya buncha whiners!! Here:
And yes... it was a very good post by YSYEO.
Geez, ya buncha whiners!! Here:
And yes... it was a very good post by YSYEO.
Oh fer gawd's sake!!
Oh fer gawd's sake!!
JetGirl its kinda like Abe said. " you can please some people some of the time, the rest just punch in the face"
IDK but I think we're supposed to get punched in the face for having a problem with reading a wall of text and having the nerve to point it out.Who's whining now?...
IDK but I think we're supposed to get punched in the face for having a problem with reading a wall of text and having the nerve to point it out.
Not going there.Only if you are whining to Jetgirl
Geez....That was exhausting .... Now I'm gonna go to Walmart in Washington and OC....if I have the strength !
Might have to use the little electric shopping cart ! Won't that be a sight ???
Might as well OC the carbine, if you're gonna ride the "hoveround," eh?
No, my whining is usually followed up by objects at high rates of speed and with great accuracy and authority...I have a great arm.
You know... I was thinking about going for a bike ride the other day... Than I remembered how much my butt hurt after I rode on the Greenway with you and I changed my mind