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I knew somethin hadda be up
It might also be because you don't have a BLINGED out hi-point like some who live in da hood.
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List of ranges in NWI; Is your range here?:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/break_...ml#post1252132
Who in NWI has a M&P 9 pro? I don't know why, but I have taken an intrest in polymer framed guns again. I need to shoot one!!!!!!!
I'd also love to shoot a gen 4 g17 if someone has one.
I have cool guns to shoot in return.
I have one you can try but don't know when we could get together. I think you would enjoy this one because it has the APEX Comp kit in it. It only has a 2.5 lb trigger pull.
Fun times. I got to bust out the new AR, as well as put a few rounds down the SCAR. I think both of them had about the same recoil even though the SCAR was .308. What a gun, Turnandshoot's got me droolin now.
It was a bit cold, but we stayed busy and moving so it wasn't too bad. Even did a few reload drills, which was fun and different, a good change to just punching holes.
It was a bit cold, but we stayed busy and moving so it wasn't too bad. Even did a few reload drills, which was fun and different, a good change to just punching holes.
FYI NWI your help is needed in calling your State Senators TODAY for SB 292 and SB506! Below is all the firearm bills pending for 2011.
--UNKNOWN IF GOOD/BAD BILLS--
SB0593 – Records and Judicial Technology
(Moves LTCH database to clerk of circuit court & thus makes it a public record so anyone can request the information since it is a public record)
Moves duties concerning the administration of an electronic system for receiving information related to individuals possessing firearms from the division of state court administration to the attorney general's office. Provides that the clerk of a circuit court (clerk) is the official custodian of all records and writings of the court. Provides that the clerk shall provide copies of any public record in its possession to a party who requests the record. Provides that if the clerk maintains a case management system and receives funds from the automated record keeping fee, the case management system must meet certain standards. Prohibits certain court case information from being shared with the division of state court administration (division). Provides that the division shall not deny a person access to any public records that the division maintains. Removes certain duties of the division. Changes the responsibility of developing and maintaining the protective order registry from the division to attorney general's office. Corrects conflicting language regarding protective orders. Creates the e- citation fund. Provides that certain money in the state user fee fund will be deposited in the e- citation fund. Requires each clerk to establish an automated record keeping fund. Requires the prosecuting attorneys council to prescribe the contents of electronic traffic tickets. Repeals the judicial technology and automation project fund.
--BAD BILLS--
SB0131 – Possession of Firearm at Petroleum Refineries
Allows an employer to prohibit an employee from possessing a firearm or ammunition on property that contains a petroleum refinery.
--GOOD BILLS—
SB0094 – Purchase of Rifles & Shotguns
(ie. ATF will no longer be able to use our IN law to say that IN residents can only buy long guns from IN, OH, KY, MI or IL. So IN residents can buy a long gun from ANY state)
Repeals a provision that states: (1) a resident of Indiana may purchase a rifle or shotgun in Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, or Illinois; and (2) a resident of Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, or Illinois may purchase a rifle or shotgun in Indiana. (This provision was enacted in 1983 in response to the federal Gun Control Act, which allowed sales of rifles and shotguns to a nonresident of a contiguous state only if both states enacted laws allowing the sales. However, this contiguous state requirement of the federal law was amended in 1986 so that firearms dealers can sell to residents of any other state if
SB0147 – Handgun licenses & shooting ranges
(OK but SB0506 is better and the one we should push for!)
Provides that a person is not required to possess a license to: (1) carry an unloaded handgun between the person's dwelling or fixed place of business and a shooting range; or (2) possess a handgun at a shooting range.
SB0154 – Firearms on off-road vehicles or snowmobiles
(Off-road vehicles & snowmobiles would be just like other vehicles and an LTCH holder can carry as they please)
Allows a person to carry a loaded and operational firearm while operating an off-road vehicle or snowmobile if: (1) the firearm is a handgun and the person has been issued an unlimited handgun license; (2) the firearm is a handgun and the person is not required to possess a license to carry a handgun; or (3) the person is operating the vehicle on property that the person owns, has a contractual interest in, legally possesses, or has permission from the owner to possess a firearm on.
SB0291 – Indiana Firearms Freedom Act
(Guns made in Indiana with Indiana only parts does and does not leave Indiana is NOT subject to Federal laws. AKA “Montana Firearm Freedom Law”)
Provides that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that: (1) is manufactured commercially or privately in Indiana from basic materials; (2) can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state; and (3) remains within the borders of Indiana; is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of the United States Congress to regulate interstate commerce.
SB0292 & HB1540 – Preemption of local firearm regulations
(ie. Bye-Bye EC & Gary assault weapon bans!)
Prohibits, with certain exceptions, a political subdivision from regulating any matter pertaining to firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories. Allows a person to file an action against a political subdivision if the person is adversely affected by an ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy of the political subdivision that violates the law.
SB0319 – Firearms on School Property
(Possession of firearm @ schools drops of Class D felony to Class A misdemeanor. Allows LTCH holder to leave handgun in vehicles (out of sight) and park at school property)
Makes unlawful possession of a firearm: (1) in or on school property; (2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function; or (3) on a school bus; a Class A misdemeanor instead of a Class D felony. Provides that the law concerning unlawful possession of a firearm in or on school property or in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function does not apply to a person who may legally possess a firearm, possesses a valid license to carry a handgun, is not a student enrolled in the school, and stores a firearm: (1) in a motor vehicle that is parked in or on school property or parked in or on property that is being used by the school for a school function; and (2) that is locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle, kept in the glove compartment of the locked motor vehicle, or stored out of plain sight in the locked motor vehicle.
SB0411 & HB1355 – Disclosure of Firearm or Ammunition Information
(ie. Don’t ask, Don’t tell about Firearms @ work)
Provides that a civil action may be brought against a public or private employer that has: (1) required an applicant for employment or an employee to disclose information under certain circumstances about whether the applicant or employee owns, possesses, uses, or transports a firearm or ammunition; or (2) conditioned employment, or any rights, benefits, privileges, or opportunities offered by the employment, upon an agreement that the applicant for employment or the employee forego the otherwise lawful ownership, possession, storage, transportation, or use of a firearm or ammunition.
SB0434 – Retail Handgun License
Provides that after June 30, 2011: (1) a retail handgun dealer's license is valid for six years from the date the license is issued instead of two years; and (2) the fee to obtain the license is $60 instead of $20.
SB0506 & HB1546 – Handgun Possession
(ie. Allows the carrying of an UNLOADED & SECURED handgun in a vehicle WITHOUT an LTCH. So you will be OK driving to/from range without a LTCH)
Allows a person to carry a handgun on or about the person's body without being licensed to carry a handgun if: (1) the person is in or on property, or in a vehicle, that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by the person; (2) the person is lawfully present in or on private property, or in a vehicle, that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by another person; (3) the person is carrying the handgun at a shooting range, while attending a firearms instructional course, or while engaged in a legal hunting activity; or (4) the handgun is unloaded and securely wrapped. (Current law provides that a person who does not possess a valid handgun license may not carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body unless the person: (1) is in the person's dwelling or fixed place of business or on the person's property; or (2) is carrying the handgun unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place where the handgun was purchased to the person's dwelling or fixed place of business, between a handgun repair shop and the person's dwelling or fixed place of business, or from one dwelling or fixed place of business to another.) Specifies that a person who has been convicted of domestic battery may not possess or carry a handgun unless the person's right to possess a firearm has been restored by a court.
Indiana District Map
http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/files/complete_senate.pdf
IN State Senators: Call 1-800-382-9467
District 1 – Frank Mrvan Jr (D)
District 2 – Lonnie Randolph (D)
District 3 – Earline S. Rogers (D)
District 4 – Karen Tallian (D)
District 5 – Ed Charbonneau (R)
District 6 – Sue Landske (R)
District 7 – Brandt Hershman (R)
District 8 – Jim Arnold (D)
District 9 – Ryan Mishler (R)
District 10 – John Broden (D)
--UNKNOWN IF GOOD/BAD BILLS--
SB0593 – Records and Judicial Technology
(Moves LTCH database to clerk of circuit court & thus makes it a public record so anyone can request the information since it is a public record)
Moves duties concerning the administration of an electronic system for receiving information related to individuals possessing firearms from the division of state court administration to the attorney general's office. Provides that the clerk of a circuit court (clerk) is the official custodian of all records and writings of the court. Provides that the clerk shall provide copies of any public record in its possession to a party who requests the record. Provides that if the clerk maintains a case management system and receives funds from the automated record keeping fee, the case management system must meet certain standards. Prohibits certain court case information from being shared with the division of state court administration (division). Provides that the division shall not deny a person access to any public records that the division maintains. Removes certain duties of the division. Changes the responsibility of developing and maintaining the protective order registry from the division to attorney general's office. Corrects conflicting language regarding protective orders. Creates the e- citation fund. Provides that certain money in the state user fee fund will be deposited in the e- citation fund. Requires each clerk to establish an automated record keeping fund. Requires the prosecuting attorneys council to prescribe the contents of electronic traffic tickets. Repeals the judicial technology and automation project fund.
--BAD BILLS--
SB0131 – Possession of Firearm at Petroleum Refineries
Allows an employer to prohibit an employee from possessing a firearm or ammunition on property that contains a petroleum refinery.
--GOOD BILLS—
SB0094 – Purchase of Rifles & Shotguns
(ie. ATF will no longer be able to use our IN law to say that IN residents can only buy long guns from IN, OH, KY, MI or IL. So IN residents can buy a long gun from ANY state)
Repeals a provision that states: (1) a resident of Indiana may purchase a rifle or shotgun in Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, or Illinois; and (2) a resident of Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan, or Illinois may purchase a rifle or shotgun in Indiana. (This provision was enacted in 1983 in response to the federal Gun Control Act, which allowed sales of rifles and shotguns to a nonresident of a contiguous state only if both states enacted laws allowing the sales. However, this contiguous state requirement of the federal law was amended in 1986 so that firearms dealers can sell to residents of any other state if
SB0147 – Handgun licenses & shooting ranges
(OK but SB0506 is better and the one we should push for!)
Provides that a person is not required to possess a license to: (1) carry an unloaded handgun between the person's dwelling or fixed place of business and a shooting range; or (2) possess a handgun at a shooting range.
SB0154 – Firearms on off-road vehicles or snowmobiles
(Off-road vehicles & snowmobiles would be just like other vehicles and an LTCH holder can carry as they please)
Allows a person to carry a loaded and operational firearm while operating an off-road vehicle or snowmobile if: (1) the firearm is a handgun and the person has been issued an unlimited handgun license; (2) the firearm is a handgun and the person is not required to possess a license to carry a handgun; or (3) the person is operating the vehicle on property that the person owns, has a contractual interest in, legally possesses, or has permission from the owner to possess a firearm on.
SB0291 – Indiana Firearms Freedom Act
(Guns made in Indiana with Indiana only parts does and does not leave Indiana is NOT subject to Federal laws. AKA “Montana Firearm Freedom Law”)
Provides that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that: (1) is manufactured commercially or privately in Indiana from basic materials; (2) can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state; and (3) remains within the borders of Indiana; is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of the United States Congress to regulate interstate commerce.
SB0292 & HB1540 – Preemption of local firearm regulations
(ie. Bye-Bye EC & Gary assault weapon bans!)
Prohibits, with certain exceptions, a political subdivision from regulating any matter pertaining to firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories. Allows a person to file an action against a political subdivision if the person is adversely affected by an ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy of the political subdivision that violates the law.
SB0319 – Firearms on School Property
(Possession of firearm @ schools drops of Class D felony to Class A misdemeanor. Allows LTCH holder to leave handgun in vehicles (out of sight) and park at school property)
Makes unlawful possession of a firearm: (1) in or on school property; (2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function; or (3) on a school bus; a Class A misdemeanor instead of a Class D felony. Provides that the law concerning unlawful possession of a firearm in or on school property or in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function does not apply to a person who may legally possess a firearm, possesses a valid license to carry a handgun, is not a student enrolled in the school, and stores a firearm: (1) in a motor vehicle that is parked in or on school property or parked in or on property that is being used by the school for a school function; and (2) that is locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle, kept in the glove compartment of the locked motor vehicle, or stored out of plain sight in the locked motor vehicle.
SB0411 & HB1355 – Disclosure of Firearm or Ammunition Information
(ie. Don’t ask, Don’t tell about Firearms @ work)
Provides that a civil action may be brought against a public or private employer that has: (1) required an applicant for employment or an employee to disclose information under certain circumstances about whether the applicant or employee owns, possesses, uses, or transports a firearm or ammunition; or (2) conditioned employment, or any rights, benefits, privileges, or opportunities offered by the employment, upon an agreement that the applicant for employment or the employee forego the otherwise lawful ownership, possession, storage, transportation, or use of a firearm or ammunition.
SB0434 – Retail Handgun License
Provides that after June 30, 2011: (1) a retail handgun dealer's license is valid for six years from the date the license is issued instead of two years; and (2) the fee to obtain the license is $60 instead of $20.
SB0506 & HB1546 – Handgun Possession
(ie. Allows the carrying of an UNLOADED & SECURED handgun in a vehicle WITHOUT an LTCH. So you will be OK driving to/from range without a LTCH)
Allows a person to carry a handgun on or about the person's body without being licensed to carry a handgun if: (1) the person is in or on property, or in a vehicle, that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by the person; (2) the person is lawfully present in or on private property, or in a vehicle, that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by another person; (3) the person is carrying the handgun at a shooting range, while attending a firearms instructional course, or while engaged in a legal hunting activity; or (4) the handgun is unloaded and securely wrapped. (Current law provides that a person who does not possess a valid handgun license may not carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body unless the person: (1) is in the person's dwelling or fixed place of business or on the person's property; or (2) is carrying the handgun unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place where the handgun was purchased to the person's dwelling or fixed place of business, between a handgun repair shop and the person's dwelling or fixed place of business, or from one dwelling or fixed place of business to another.) Specifies that a person who has been convicted of domestic battery may not possess or carry a handgun unless the person's right to possess a firearm has been restored by a court.
Indiana District Map
http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/files/complete_senate.pdf
IN State Senators: Call 1-800-382-9467
District 1 – Frank Mrvan Jr (D)
District 2 – Lonnie Randolph (D)
District 3 – Earline S. Rogers (D)
District 4 – Karen Tallian (D)
District 5 – Ed Charbonneau (R)
District 6 – Sue Landske (R)
District 7 – Brandt Hershman (R)
District 8 – Jim Arnold (D)
District 9 – Ryan Mishler (R)
District 10 – John Broden (D)
FYI...
Our senator replied to my email! See here:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...sb_292_and_sb_506_2-7-11_a-3.html#post1653417
Short answer he has not made up his mind on the issue yet. So see msg above for direct number to call him. Get your friends to call him as well. Get family as well. EVERYONE!!!!!
Our senator replied to my email! See here:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...sb_292_and_sb_506_2-7-11_a-3.html#post1653417
Short answer he has not made up his mind on the issue yet. So see msg above for direct number to call him. Get your friends to call him as well. Get family as well. EVERYONE!!!!!
1st 2011 Meet & Shoot is now online!
Go & vote for which day in MARCH.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...7-nwi_ingo_meet_and_shoot_-_march_2011_a.html
Go & vote for which day in MARCH.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...7-nwi_ingo_meet_and_shoot_-_march_2011_a.html
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