NRA Supports Bump Stock Regulation

[MRP2003]

Neither one. If you look closely the stock never touches the shoulder. He is pushing the stock up against his cheek also his hand is not around the pistol grip. This is why I keep saying and others that you cannot ban a technique.

It is against his sholder

 

[MRP2003]

Also so here's one with an (edit) AR "OAL"

[video=youtube_share;M5gARxQmJyU]http://youtu.be/M5gARxQmJyU[/video]

This guy has great control using the front hand guard grip. That takes a little practice

 

[Alpo]

I seriously thought you were trolling me

No. As you can guess, you can be around guns all your life and unless you're doing a specific configuration, it isn't always easy to know what is legal or not.

 

[lonehoosier]

It is against his sholder

Look at it again. The AK stock is recoiling on his cheek.

 

[lonehoosier]

No. As you can guess, you can be around guns all your life and unless you're doing a specific configuration, it isn't always easy to know what is legal or not.

And that is a perfect example why we should take the time to educate non gun owners.

 

[nipprdog]

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[ajeandy]

Yes, you can.

I bet with a little practice or addition to the foregrip, you could even be "accurate enough" to get the job done.

[video=youtube;VB1QlHtOWCQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB1QlHtOWCQ[/video]

Looks like your vid was taken down, but I guarrntee your poor excuse for tequnique won't give you half the accuracy of a bump stock. It's pretty appalling, all the excuses being made for an aftermarket part invented recently to circumvent the NFA.

If you think someone could replicate the damage this guy did with finger tricks then

We all know the stock was intended to replicate full auto. Stop pretending.

 

[Vigilant]

Looks like your vid was taken down, but I guarrntee your poor excuse for tequnique won't give you half the accuracy of a bump stock. It's pretty appalling, all the excuses being made for an aftermarket part invented recently to circumvent the NFA.

If you think someone could replicate the damage this guy did with finger tricks then

We all know the stock was intended to replicate full auto. Stop pretending.

Whats your stance on 80% receivers? We all know they were made to circumvent ANY .gov interference?

 

[Brad69]

R.I.P
Bump Fire

2010-2017

You were something most of us could careless about.
But you managed to inflict more damage to the Second Amendment than anything I can think of!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/opinion/guns-second-amendment-nra.html


Let's be honest about the Second Amendment

NYT conservative Bret Stephens: 'Repeal the Second Amendment' | TheHill

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment | Fox News Insider

https://www.facebook.com/Repeal-the-Second-Amendment-371249309570118/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/03/gun-control-america-failed-las-vegas

 

[ScouT6a]

Looks like your vid was taken down, but I guarrntee your poor excuse for tequnique won't give you half the accuracy of a bump stock. It's pretty appalling, all the excuses being made for an aftermarket part invented recently to circumvent the NFA.

If you think someone could replicate the damage this guy did with finger tricks then

We all know the stock was intended to replicate full auto. Stop pretending.

I don't see anyone arguing the fact that a bump stock was designed to simulate the rate of fire of a full auto.
The key points being, they do it legally and they just simulate it. It is not full auto, by the definition of the law, as ruled (multiple times) by the BATF.
No different than an AR15 being a simulation of an M16.
Neither the AR15, nor the bump stock is an NFA item.

So you are saying the government should make a law that says a person can only fire a semi auto rifle or pistol at a limited number of rounds per minute?

 

[Kutnupe14]

I don't see anyone arguing the fact that a bump stock was designed to simulate the rate of fire of a full auto.
The key points being, they do it legally and they just simulate it. It is not full auto, by the definition of the law, as ruled (multiple times) by the BATF.
No different than an AR15 being a simulation of an M16.
Neither the AR15, nor the bump stock is an NFA item.

So you are saying the government should make a law that says a person can only fire a semi auto rifle or pistol at a limited number of rounds per minute?

Regardless of where one stands, this is an intellectually dishonest argument. I think we are all clear as to why FA firearms are in a "special" category. If something is crafted as a workaround to produce results similar to an item in a "special" category, then realistically, to the layman, there is little to no difference.

 

[Vigilant]

Regardless of where one stands, this is an intellectually dishonest argument. I think we are all clear as to why FA firearms are in a "special" category. If something is crafted as a workaround to produce results similar to an item in a "special" category, then realistically, to the layman, there is little to no difference.

Explain how wallets, and shoe laces became "special category" firearms? As well as briefcases, ink pens, palm pistols, etc.

 

[Brad69]

I have to agree with KUT again twice in one week!

Going to celebrate with a Zima!

 

[Vigilant]

Regardless of where one stands, this is an intellectually dishonest argument. I think we are all clear as to why FA firearms are in a "special" category. If something is crafted as a workaround to produce results similar to an item in a "special" category, then realistically, to the layman, there is little to no difference.

And the regulatory agency that oversees those "special category" firearms has repeatedly said OK?

 

[Brad69]

Bump fire is the new evil destructive device for the Second Amendment opponents.

What it does or how is can be simulated is not what they care about or what the new law will state.

ATF has no relation to public outcry that will change the law.

 

[Que]

R.I.P
Bump Fire

2010-2017

You were something most of us could careless about.
But you managed to inflict more damage to the Second Amendment than anything I can think of!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/opinion/guns-second-amendment-nra.html


Let's be honest about the Second Amendment

NYT conservative Bret Stephens: 'Repeal the Second Amendment' | TheHill

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment | Fox News Insider

https://www.facebook.com/Repeal-the-Second-Amendment-371249309570118/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/03/gun-control-america-failed-las-vegas

People don't really care about bump stocks. The majority of people are stuck on the notion the guy used full-auto rifles and don't even know what a bump stick is or what it does. They want to see the authorities go into every home and remove guns. They want to see bulldozers crush firearms. They want to see it become illegal to own, possess, purchase, or sell a firearm. Any "agreement" is a means to an end and unless that end comes to fruition, they will not be satisfied.

The sale of firearms is the lowest it has been in years. An AR that cost $1,200 in October 2016 can now be purchased for $499 with a $50 rebate. Shelves are stocked and they still aren't moving! There will be a lot of tears and yelling for a few more weeks and something will be mentioned about "discussions about restrictions" by some committee and some will buy up everything on the shelves, while prices rise. We have gone through this about four times over the last 8-10 years. The democrats and republicans will be provided more money by their supporters to fight the opposing side and the NRA will be calling us to get money to fight the "gun grabbers."

What happened in Las Vegas was tragic and I feel for the families, but that's as far as I will go. I'm not afraid of bans and I'm not giving anyone money to fight for me, when they all are in cahoots. If you give a politician enough money, most have demonstrated they will vote against the wishes of their constituents. Let's see what happens this time.

 

[SteelersFan]

R.I.P
Bump Fire

2010-2017

You were something most of us could careless about.
But you managed to inflict more damage to the Second Amendment than anything I can think of!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/opinion/guns-second-amendment-nra.html


Let's be honest about the Second Amendment

NYT conservative Bret Stephens: 'Repeal the Second Amendment' | TheHill

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment | Fox News Insider

https://www.facebook.com/Repeal-the-Second-Amendment-371249309570118/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/03/gun-control-america-failed-las-vegas

The bump stock didn't damage the 2nd, the evil person pulling the trigger did. This sounds just like people who blame the guns.

 

[t1545jh]

Regardless of where one stands, this is an intellectually dishonest argument. I think we are all clear as to why FA firearms are in a "special" category. If something is crafted as a workaround to produce results similar to an item in a "special" category, then realistically, to the layman, there is little to no difference.

I would agree with this! I own both a FA and a bump stock and even though there is a huge difference between 1200 rounds per minute and 600-700 rounds per minute most of my non-shooting friends don't know the difference. My guess is bump stocks will soon be classified as an AOW NFA device and have to be registered with the ATF. That being said, Paddock was a multi-millionaire with no criminal background, he could have legally purchased and legally owned as many machine guns as he wanted. So even without the bumpstock he could have still legally committed this crime.

 

[Brad69]

The anti gun people do not blame people they blame objects bump stocks,magazines,optics.
Does anyone here think that the anti 2AD crowd looks at things like we do?
They do it in a light we can't understand.

Yes the anger is not toward the shooter but the objects. It worked you will see legislation in a very short period of time with the NRA support.

 

[possum_128]

Just sent them a note and burned my card, they can kiss my backside goodbye!