Needing Garand advice dead trigger

[Wolfhound]

Ohh yeah that lug is important.

How was the rifle even locking up without that? On one side only? That had to rattle.
When you get one make sure both lugs are round, so often they get out of round and don't lock up as good when worn.

What those two lugs do is "lock up" the stock, trigger group, into the receiver...

Without the lug.. problems to say the least.

It still locks surprisingly well. I can’t move it by hand when the trigger group is locked in place. But, it probably doesn’t hold tight enough when firing it. So, yeah that’s likely the issue. Can’t believe I missed that.

 

[Wolfhound]

Now that I think about it, we should meet and I will bring a couple of trigger groups also. just to prove its something in your group'

Let me try a new trigger guard with both lugs. If that doesn’t do it I would very much appreciate borrowing a trigger group to make sure that’s where the problem is.

I just ordered a new trigger guard. Be here soon.

 

[Creedmoor]

Let me try a new trigger guard with both lugs. If that doesn’t do it I would very much appreciate borrowing a trigger group to make sure that’s where the problem is.

Let me know please, I'm not that far away.

 

[Wolfhound]

Let me know please, I'm not that far away.

Will do. Thank you Sir.

 

[gassprint1]

Let me know please, I'm not that far away.

Sounds like someone is getting excited to work on a gun and go shooting.
Could be a new members thing..instead of meet n shoot or meet n eat..the new this is: Meet n work on guns n shoot..

 

[BigMoose]

Sounds like someone is getting excited to work on a gun and go shooting.
Could be a new members thing..instead of meet n shoot or meet n eat..the new this is: Meet n work on guns n shoot..

M1/M14 meetup is never a bad idea.

I have both an IHC M1 and a SAI M14 Semi Auto

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Sounds like someone is getting excited to work on a gun and go shooting.
Could be a new members thing..instead of meet n shoot or meet n eat..the new this is: Meet n work on guns n shoot..

There used to be AK and AR build get togethers. Haven't seen one in awhile though.

 

[Creedmoor]

Sounds like someone is getting excited to work on a gun and go shooting.
Could be a new members thing..instead of meet n shoot or meet n eat..the new this is: Meet n work on guns n shoot..

I've owned my Garands since when the DCM was still in business and they were one per lifetime. I have my 1st wifes and mine and they were $121.00 bucks a piece.
M14's were about $400.00 plus a stamp then.
I'm also not a gunsmith.

 

[BigMoose]

Pics of my TG taken down for @Wolfhound

My IHC went through a 60s SA rebuild and ended up with a bunch of WW2 parts.

 

[Wolfhound]

Pics of my TG taken down for @Wolfhound

My IHC went through a 60s SA rebuild and ended up with a bunch of WW2 parts.

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That’s helpful, thanks. UPS is showing my replacement trigger guard arriving Monday.

 

[92FSTech]

I'll bet that fixes it, but I'll be watching with interest. Be sure to keep us posted. Hopefully you're back up and running on Monday.

I had to replace a hammer and trigger on my first CMP Garand because it was worn and occasionally doubling...not fun with a cartridge with the recoil of the .30-06. It's not "AR-15 simple", but the Garand trigger group isn't too complicated or difficult to work with.

 

[Wolfhound]

Ok, update on the M1. New trigger guard, trigger assembly, trigger pin and hammer pin. It function tests perfect with the old stock. The new stock is a different story. The trigger group goes in but doesn’t want to lock in place. If I force it in place it will lock but I am wondering if this might be what broke the lug in the first place. I probably need to remove some wood to get it to fit normally. I can see a slight difference in the stocks where the plate is (this is where a magazine would be in an M1A). Also, with the new stock the bolt seems to hang a little.

Not sure exactly when but I will test fire with the old stock to make sure everything is working like it should mechanically.

Then look at working on the new stock.

 

[Squirt239]

Ok, update on the M1. New trigger guard, trigger assembly, trigger pin and hammer pin. It function tests perfect with the old stock. The new stock is a different story. The trigger group goes in but doesn’t want to lock in place. If I force it in place it will lock but I am wondering if this might be what broke the lug in the first place. I probably need to remove some wood to get it to fit normally. I can see a slight difference in the stocks where the plate is (this is where a magazine would be in an M1A). Also, with the new stock the bolt seems to hang a little.

Not sure exactly when but I will test fire with the old stock to make sure everything is working like it should mechanically.

Then look at working on the new stock.

Take a piece of tracing paper and make a rubbing of each. Cut them out and compare.

You'll find out real quick where the problem is

 

[Wolfhound]

Take a piece of tracing paper and make a rubbing of each. Cut them out and compare.

You'll find out real quick where the problem is

That makes a lot of sense.

 

[BigMoose]

Ok, update on the M1. New trigger guard, trigger assembly, trigger pin and hammer pin. It function tests perfect with the old stock. The new stock is a different story. The trigger group goes in but doesn’t want to lock in place. If I force it in place it will lock but I am wondering if this might be what broke the lug in the first place. I probably need to remove some wood to get it to fit normally. I can see a slight difference in the stocks where the plate is (this is where a magazine would be in an M1A). Also, with the new stock the bolt seems to hang a little.

Not sure exactly when but I will test fire with the old stock to make sure everything is working like it should mechanically.

Then look at working on the new stock.

Or it’s perfect with the new stock.

Tight Lock up is good for accuracy. New garands often required a mallet to help lock the trigger guard. Sounds like you fixed it perfect.

yeah you probably had a dodgy trigger guard that broke with tight proper lock up, The new one sounds like it locks up golden.

 

[Wolfhound]

Or it’s perfect with the new stock.

Tight Lock up is good for accuracy. New garands often required a mallet to help lock the trigger guard. Sounds like you fixed it perfect.

yeah you probably had a dodgy trigger guard that broke with tight proper lock up, The new one sounds like it locks up golden.

Well, maybe the test fire will involve both stocks then. I did not think it was supposed to be that tight of a lock up.

 

[BigMoose]

Well, maybe the test fire will involve both stocks then. I did not think it was supposed to be that tight of a lock up.

I will find the Army big picture video of the guy using a wooden mallet to beat the trigger groups closed.

 

[BigMoose]

@Wolfhound



Not saying that some of the new stocks won't need some fitting, just don't fret if its got tight lockup, you want a tight lock up.

 

[Chase25]

I would defiantly check out the cmp forms. Any issues I’ve had with mine I’ve gone there and found numerous with the same problem.

 

[Wolfhound]

I haven’t made it to the range yet. The heat and work have made it difficult. I will post an update when I test out the Garand. Thanks for everyone‘s help and sorry about the delay.