my fear of Obama Tax's long term effect on our lives.

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    Ok, since you are one of the very few, in your opinion, who have any knowledge of this law. Perhaps you can explain how a government that is trillions of dollars in debt and continues to spend like drunken sailors (it's ok, folks, I was one) can tack on trillions more in expenditures without the economy crashing? The tax base is SHRINKING. Millions of people are leaving, or have already left, the workforce. The welfare, unemployment and disability rolls are expanding by leaps and bounds. Millions more people are being cut from full time to part time. The socialists have learned to buy votes with handouts. Where is the money going to come from? There can only be one outcome and it is no longer an if but a when.
     

    Chewie

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    Wow, never thought I would see a post so completely devoid of content and intelligence so soon today.

    Just read your own posts, they were posted before mine.
    Maybe you need to research both sides, the ACA as promoted by the "pass it before you read it" crowd and those living in the real world.
    I know you can't because that would require being willing to accept the fact that the ACA and it's promoters are not in this to help "the people".
    In order to realize what our current controlling part really wants you need to be very skeptical and cynical of the Gov't as a whole, Not just Dems or Repubs.
     

    pinshooter45

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    Obviously you havent reserached the law Bogan, obamacare is gov't health care, in a few short years it will be single payer as everyone opts for the cheaper insurance in the first couple years then is forced into gov't health care after the insurance companies are gone. Bogan, i can say all the same things you have just insert cnn, anderson cooper, oprah, all of your favorite idiotic pundits and what will that get? wake up man, obamacare costs are TRIPLE what current premiums are, another huge lie from your dear leader. so sad.

    I agree with what you are typing here but I do not think the insurance companies will be gone. What we will have is a single payer system with the Feds in charge and the Insurance companies selling supplemental policies like they do now for medicare. As big as that bureaucracy will probably get it will be difficult to find jobs for all of those out of work insurance employees.
     

    steveh_131

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    You need to read the law, rather than listening to the wingnuts. Show me the single payer rule in the law. Then show me the government-run healthcare plan in the law. Then show me where it says that existing insurance companies will be gone. And by the way, I don't think you understand what single-payer is.

    (Un)Intended consequences.

    It will lead us there.
     

    ljk

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    Wow, never thought I would see a post so completely devoid of content and intelligence so soon today.

    I need some intelligence on this ACA deal from you,

    1 simple question: how many of these people who wrote the law, and those who voted for it have already signed up?

    please.
     

    BigBoxaJunk

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    Clearly not, since neither our Health Care system nor our high speed internet systems have any basis in the free market.

    Yeah, kinda what I meant when I said Free Enterprise "American Style". - which is like regular Free Enterprise, except that it involves lobbying for government regulation to limit the customer's choices (primarily to your product or service).
     

    steveh_131

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    Yeah, kinda what I meant when I said Free Enterprise "American Style". - which is like regular Free Enterprise, except that it involves lobbying for government regulation to limit the customer's choices (primarily to your product or service).

    Then we are on the same page, except I'd hesitate to call it "American Style". It may be at this point, but I sure wish it wasn't.
     

    pinshooter45

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    Just thought I post that due to the Affordable Healthcare Act, my wife's insurance is drastically changing. Going to have to choose from four plans in one of those Exchanges, Losing Vision coverage, not sure about dental plan yet but looks like all premiums are going up. Oh and we can still have vision coverage if we pay 100% of the premium. And we did not have what I would consider a "Cadillac" plan, better than some but not as good as others we have had. WE had a HSA with the old plan not sure how that is going to work either. THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA and you fellow CRONIES!
     
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