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  • bwframe

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    First the truth slowly came out about the "much respected by both sides" Comey. Now the same with Mueller, who ran the FBI for how long?

    How can you trust any of these mother****ers? How can you trust the FBI?
     

    BugI02

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    Mueller was told by Barr to redact grand jury testimony and confidential material in the report to prep the entire thing for release. He did not do so, but did work to clear the investigators summaries instead. In my opinion he then tried to sandbag Barr by only having the parts Mueller wanted to be released first (the most speculative parts) ready to go, perhaps thinking Barr would feel compelled to release something. Didn't work out as he planned and that was the cause of the delay in releasing anything but the Barr/McCabe executive summary. The full report didn't provide anything for the Dems to latch onto and people either aren't reading it or when they do they see it all was a hit job. Mueller has burnt down his reputation and shown himself to be a partisan hack, the only question is how willing a participant in his self immolation he actually was

    Have you seen that Weissmann got caught by the Austrian government trying to suborn testimony against Trump from a Russian oligarch Dmitry Firtash who is fighting an extradition request by the US. Two weeks after Mueller was appointed, Weissmann was shopping for scripted testimony against Trump

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...issmanns-offer-to-an-oligarch-could-boomerang
    How Mueller deputy Andrew Weissmann's offer to an oligarch could boomerang on DOJ

    The third red flag came in how much Weissmann communicated to Firstash’s lawyers about his hopes for the Ukrainian oligarch’s testimony.


    Prosecutors in plea deals typically ask a defendant for a written proffer of what they can provide in testimony and identify the general topics that might interest them. But Weissmann appeared to go much further in a July 7, 2017, meeting with Firtash’s American lawyers and FBI agents, sharing certain private theories of the nascent special counsel’s investigation into Trump, his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Russia, according to defense memos.


    For example, Firtash’s legal team wrote that Weissmann told them he believed a company called Bayrock, tied to former FBI informant Felix Sater, had “made substantial investments with Donald Trump’s companies” and that prosecutors were looking for dirt on Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.


    Weissmann told the Firtash team “he believes that Manafort and his people substantially coordinated their activities with Russians in order to win their work in Ukraine,” according to the defense memos. And the Mueller deputy said he “believed” a Ukrainian group tied to Manafort “was merely a front for illegal criminal activities in Ukraine,” and suggested a “Russian secret service authority” may have been involved in influencing the 2016 U.S. election, the defense memos show.


    Weissmann’s private observations and sharing of prosecutor’s theories went beyond what prosecutors normally do in proffer negotiations and risked planting ideas that could lead the witness to craft his testimony, according to legal experts I consulted.


    Trump is correct again, the investigators Mueller hired were partisan and the chief deputy is dirty
     

    KG1

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    It’s quite telling that the oligarch and his attorneys appear to have more integrity by not playing along with the scheme than the lead hatchet man on Mueller’s team.
     
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    KG1

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    Mueller was surrounded by partisan hack snakes that hated Trump and wanted to take him down. He was just a figurehead designed to lend credibility to the whole contrived hit job.

    The thing is they still could’nt come up with enough evidence to pin a Russian conspiracy rap on Trump although apparently it wasn’t due to lack of trying by any means.

    And when they couldn’t do that they turned to an obstruction angle. They just didn’t want to come up empty handed.
     

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    To me that was the nail in the Democrats' impeachment coffin. However, I'm sure folks on the other side will ignore that completely.

    It's not end, and they continued to say that. To paraphrase MANY of the socialists up there - "it's up to us to keep searching......because NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW".

    I gagged every time I heard that scripted sound bite.
     

    churchmouse

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    First the truth slowly came out about the "much respected by both sides" Comey. Now the same with Mueller, who ran the FBI for how long?

    How can you trust any of these mother****ers? How can you trust the FBI?

    You can not really trust any of the weaponized ABC Gov. agency's. They are not for us.
     

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    It's not end, and they continued to say that. To paraphrase MANY of the socialists up there - "it's up to us to keep searching......because NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW*".

    I gagged every time I heard that scripted sound bite.

    * Except illegal aliens, Democrat politicians/candidates, Antifa, etc, etc.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Some takeaways from the hearing:
    -the president was not exonerated as he stated
    -Barr misrepesented the report in his brief
    -the president's written responses to Muller's questions were generally untruthful
    -The Trump campaign knew the Russians were assisting them, but failed to notify federal authorities
    -indicting the president was never an option
    -it is possible the president may face charges after he leaves office
    -the Mueller team did not investigate collusion
    -Trump was doing business with Russia during and after the campaign, contrary to what he has repeatedly stated in the past
    -Mueller did not interview for the FBI Director position

    That's what was said at the Mueller Congressional, and I'm just passing it along. I'm sure the competing tribes will make of it what they will. The question I'm more interested in, is if amongst the people in the middle that listened, are they now inclined to lean one way or the other?
     
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    Do you think it matters with the truce declared between the factions and Barr put in place to administer the peace?
     

    Leadeye

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    I think that other than big media and some unhappy congressional critters trying to sharpen the focus on a really blurry picture, most folks will move on. The political entertainment show is now interested in the 2020 election. Lots of excitement and drama coming up there for sure so stay tuned and buy our advertisers products.
     

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    It’s quite telling that the oligarch and his attorneys appear to have more integrity by not playing along with the scheme than the lead hatchet man on Mueller’s team.

    And that lead hatchet man has a documented record of prosecutorial overreach as does his boss, Mueller (can you say anthrax prosecution)
     

    Brad69

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    Mueller didn’t even read the report and as everyone witnessed he is not capable of writing it he was wheeled out of the nursing home and only has a loose familiarity with reality. This report is discredited with the American public with exception of the about 30% that consider themselves Democrats or progressives (Socialist).


    Some takeaways from hearing

    - didn’t know what Fusion GPS was?
    - had to correct himself on the DOJ guidance after giving a wrong answer (lying)
    - set in on none or very few interviews of over 500 conducted
    - did not know that he couldn’t exonerate President Trump
    - did not understand the mandate he was operating under
    - Mueller might have straight out lied under oath according to reports the VP Chief of Staff and others were present when Mueller visited with the President. They did discuss Mueller becoming the FBI director I assume Mueller wouldn’t get convicted due to being senile.
    - testified under oath that nobody interfered or obstructed the investigation (so where’s the crime?)

    I am donating another $10 to the Trump campaign in honor of my buddy Kut!
     

    churchmouse

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    Some takeaways from the hearing:
    -the president was not exonerated as he stated
    -Barr misrepesented the report in his brief
    -the president's written responses to Muller's questions were generally untruthful
    -The Trump campaign knew the Russians were assisting them, but failed to notify federal authorities
    -indicting the president was never an option
    -it is possible the president may face charges after he leaves office
    -the Mueller team did not investigate collusion
    -Trump was doing business with Russia during and after the campaign, contrary to what he has repeatedly stated in the past
    -Mueller did not interview for the FBI Director position

    That's what was said at the Mueller Congressional, and I'm just passing it along. I'm sure the competing tribes will make of it what they will. The question I'm more interested in, is if amongst the people in the middle that listened, are they now inclined to lean one way or the other?

    How you see this is of course your opinion. All I saw was a stammering buffoon who had zero clue what was in the damned report.
    No knock but I am confused.
     

    printcraft

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    “The mueller team did not investigate collusion”

    Is that a typo?

    If not, WTF. That was the supposed basis for this ENTIRE circus.
     

    Ziggidy

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    Some takeaways from the hearing:
    -the president was not exonerated as he stated
    -Barr misrepesented the report in his brief
    -the president's written responses to Muller's questions were generally untruthful
    -The Trump campaign knew the Russians were assisting them, but failed to notify federal authorities
    -indicting the president was never an option
    -it is possible the president may face charges after he leaves office
    -the Mueller team did not investigate collusion
    -Trump was doing business with Russia during and after the campaign, contrary to what he has repeatedly stated in the past
    -Mueller did not interview for the FBI Director position

    That's what was said at the Mueller Congressional, and I'm just passing it along. I'm sure the competing tribes will make of it what they will. The question I'm more interested in, is if amongst the people in the middle that listened, are they now inclined to lean one way or the other?

    My take away was different.

    Mueller has no idea what its actually within the report he signed off on.
    Mueller lied at the hearings, his meeting with Barr....or both.
    Mueller knew about how this started and under the false pretense but neglected his duties.
    Mueller is an absolute failure since he denies knowing Fusion GPS (or did he lie about that also?)
    .....so much more.

    This was a failed attempt from the anti-trump socialists (demoncrats) who tried to gather momentum. In their eyes Mueller failed them but they will "create" substance where there is none and spin it forever. It is obviously a witch hunt. Mueller was a letter head and the anti trump (lead by the DNC and Hillary, authorized by Obama) went after him with the intentions of using fake information to derail his election efforts and then try to remove him from office.

    That's my take-away.

    Interesting that allegedly Epstein tried to commit suicide the day after the failed hearings......think about that!
     

    Kutnupe14

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    How you see this is of course your opinion. All I saw was a stammering buffoon who had zero clue what was in the damned report.
    No knock but I am confused.

    That's not how "I" see it. That's what was said. I'm just the messenger sitting here with :popcorn: waiting for the responses. ;)
     

    BugI02

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    My take away was different.

    Mueller has no idea what its actually within the report he signed off on.
    Mueller lied at the hearings, his meeting with Barr....or both.
    Mueller knew about how this started and under the false pretense but neglected his duties.
    Mueller is an absolute failure since he denies knowing Fusion GPS (or did he lie about that also?)
    .....so much more.

    This was a failed attempt from the anti-trump socialists (demoncrats) who tried to gather momentum. In their eyes Mueller failed them but they will "create" substance where there is none and spin it forever. It is obviously a witch hunt. Mueller was a letter head and the anti trump (lead by the DNC and Hillary, authorized by Obama) went after him with the intentions of using fake information to derail his election efforts and then try to remove him from office.

    That's my take-away.

    Interesting that allegedly Epstein tried to commit suicide the day after the failed hearings......think about that!

    Perhaps because all of the people he thinks he has leverage on aren't likely to retain what power they have, or gain any in the near future

    His future is not bright, he doesn't have to wear 'shades'

    It's sad that criminals never realize that atonement is still an option as long as they draw breath. One would think they would not be in a hurry to experience what awaits them beyond the grave
     

    churchmouse

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    That's not how "I" see it. That's what was said. I'm just the messenger sitting here with :popcorn: waiting for the responses. ;)

    What was said was in no way convincing and I am one waiting on all of this to play out with those who misused their authority to be held accountable. The crap stream is deep dark and full of peril.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    What was said was in no way convincing and I am one waiting on all of this to play out with those who misused their authority to be held accountable. The crap stream is deep dark and full of peril.

    You're a Trump supporter, so it's not exactly shocking that you believe that. On the reverse of that coin the anti-Trump crowd does believe it. I need to find someone who hasn't committed to a side who watched the testimony and figure out what they think.
     
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