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I think the OP should have called 911 at the time this happened. Even if the guy really is a cop in Michigan, what he did was wrong and way out of line at best. At worst, he could have been a serious threat. I doubt if anyone in Michigan gives a damn what this jackwagon did here in Indiana. I think the county sheriff and/or the ISP very much might care and they're the only ones who would do anything about it.
If law enforcement in Indiana have not yet been informed of this, they should be.
If law enforcement in Indiana have not yet been informed of this, they should be.
As written by others, cool head will prevail. Calls to 911, or descriptive with person and/ or vehicle, all in right direction.
Ater a mini vacation in Michigan, we stopped for a gas refill in Indiana, I retrieved my trunk secured, unloaded CCW, loaded up, and slid in waistband holster. Glad to be back in my legal carried state. LTCH trumps all.
Yes, when were were in the hotel, I had control over my firearm, and yes, if asked there, would inform as to their laws. Kept secured, unloaded, when enroute till arrival.
Didn't want a court session on the side of the highway, or worse, due to someone's ignorance. I am a former LEO from Indiana, and obey the laws of Rome when there.
Ater a mini vacation in Michigan, we stopped for a gas refill in Indiana, I retrieved my trunk secured, unloaded CCW, loaded up, and slid in waistband holster. Glad to be back in my legal carried state. LTCH trumps all.
Yes, when were were in the hotel, I had control over my firearm, and yes, if asked there, would inform as to their laws. Kept secured, unloaded, when enroute till arrival.
Didn't want a court session on the side of the highway, or worse, due to someone's ignorance. I am a former LEO from Indiana, and obey the laws of Rome when there.
Out of curiosity: since you have an LTCH, why didn't you carry while in MI? Michigan recognizes Indiana's LTCH. Was it merely to avoid "must inform" issues?
Nothing has changed. However, when you are in another state that allows Indiana licensees, you must follow their laws, not Indiana's. For example, you must inform the officer during a stop that you have a firearm.
Michigan firearms law: http://handgunlaw.us/states/michigan.pdf
Michigan, recognized In., LTCH, B4 Mi., ever had a carry permit .....
So you disarmed to avoid what? Having to tell a LEO that you had a legal weapon, on the slim chance you may get pulled over..
The only other thing I can think of is he was drinking, like at Dark Horse. MI is zero tolerance on alcohol and guns.
I've got that. But the gentlemen talked about going unarmed because of MI law. And he's an ex-LEO......
Yeah, I'd definitely want this bozo's name.
I'd then hand that off to the local PD, making sure to make it clear that they had an interloper trying to throw his weight around where he was totally out of his jurisdiction.
I would think that the one thing that will get cops aggravated the fastest with another cop would be muscling in on their district and harassing citizens while there.
I'd then hand that off to the local PD, making sure to make it clear that they had an interloper trying to throw his weight around where he was totally out of his jurisdiction.
I would think that the one thing that will get cops aggravated the fastest with another cop would be muscling in on their district and harassing citizens while there.
Sorry for the late reply, but no update on this as of yet.
Don't have his name, only his plate.
I'm going to wait until tomorrow and call back and see what they say. If it comes down to him not being an officer and was impersonating, I will file a report with locals.
The problem I'm worrying about is the fact that, at the time, I was in my fathers vehicle, and if the jackass did somehow get my plate, even though he left first, I don't want this coming back on dad. He travels to michigan a lot more than I do.
As it sits, if it was an off duty officer, I'm happy to have just pissed him off and called in his misconduct. I won't take it further than that for the reason posted above.
If I had been in my vehicle, I would have called and filed an official complaint with them and locals, but again. I don't want dad getting harassed.
Don't have his name, only his plate.
I'm going to wait until tomorrow and call back and see what they say. If it comes down to him not being an officer and was impersonating, I will file a report with locals.
The problem I'm worrying about is the fact that, at the time, I was in my fathers vehicle, and if the jackass did somehow get my plate, even though he left first, I don't want this coming back on dad. He travels to michigan a lot more than I do.
As it sits, if it was an off duty officer, I'm happy to have just pissed him off and called in his misconduct. I won't take it further than that for the reason posted above.
If I had been in my vehicle, I would have called and filed an official complaint with them and locals, but again. I don't want dad getting harassed.
The only other thing I can think of is he was drinking, like at Dark Horse. MI is zero tolerance on alcohol and guns.
Actually you can be .02 and carrying is implied consent to the breathalyzer. Failure ot comply and it is treated like a DUI failure ot comply and a six month suspension. Not sure what IN would do to you afte rthat.
PRasko, Nice work keeping your cool and verbal sparring. Guy was out of line regardless of who his employer is. Hopefully the plate toit he IN locals will be of use.
VUPDblue
Silencers Have NEVER Been Illegal !
I don't remember seeing anything in the Indiana Code stating that carrying is implied concent for a breathalyzer, and I don't remember seeing anything that says you can't drink while carrying. Can you point out the section that I must have missed?
SpiritClump
Plinker
I think it sounds like a good idea to contact MSP about him. He was way out of line with his behavior.
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