Michigan officer in Indiana.

[Gunner72]

You should contact Michigan. He was definitely out of line and out of jurisdiction. Not to mention disrespectful and arrogant.

 

[jbombelli]

He was talking about Michigan. I don't know whether it's true or not, just that he wasn't talking about Indiana.

Maybe he was, but the part right after, that said "...not sure what Indiana would do after that" clearly makes that statement about Indiana.

 

[Rookie]

His statement about Michigan would suspend your license for six months. He's not sure how Indiana would react. Would Indiana suspend your license or ignore the fact that Michigan suspended it.

 

[Cygnus]

He was talking about Michigan. I don't know whether it's true or not, just that he wasn't talking about Indiana.

You are correct sir. My point was that in MI carrying firearm with a CCW is implied consent for the breathalyzer. So if an Indiana LTCH holder was pulled over in MI for DUI and hadloaded pistol on them or had to defend themselves or was arrrested for public intoxiction while carrying...... I am not sure what IN would do to the IN LTCH holder. I assume you need ot report your felony arrest in MI to IN. Perhaps not?

Hope that clarifies what I meant.
EDIT: Rookie was able to decode CygnusSpeak. Very good!

 

[jbombelli]

You are correct sir. My point was tha in MI carrying firearm with a CCW is implied consent for the breathalyzer. So if an India LTCH holder was pulled over in MI for DUI and hadloaded pistol on them or had to defend themselves or was arrrested for public intoxiction while carrying*********I am not sure what IN would do to the IN LTCH holder. I assume you need ot report your felony arrest in MI to IN. Perhaps not?

Hope that clarifies what I meant.

It does. Thanks.

 

[Cygnus]

It does. Thanks.

Sorry been out here 5 years. The accent is coming thriugh when I type. LOL!

But yeah, .02. AND You are not supposed to have a gun in the casino parking garags (place ou are most likely to be mugged)

 

[LtScott14]

Out of curiosity: since you have an LTCH, why didn't you carry while in MI? Michigan recognizes Indiana's LTCH. Was it merely to avoid "must inform" issues?

True enough about not wanting to deal with a 4 car pull over. Also 2 stops were U of M, and Casino. I don't feel a pizza and a 30z Schooner of beer should cost you your carry rights as you are a visitor. Saw a lot of Law Enforcement in both stops. Easier to secure, and rearm. My car made one gas stop, and back home. Trying to keep it simple.

 

[voidsherpa]

I am not sure what IN would do to the IN LTCH holder. I assume you need ot report your felony arrest in MI to IN. Perhaps not?

You should make that stand for the collective and let us know how it plays out, I am quite interested also!

 

[PRasko]

You should contact Michigan. He was definitely out of line and out of jurisdiction. Not to mention disrespectful and arrogant.

Did, but all I could give them was car make model and plate number.

 

[cce1302]

In for an update.


Did it happen to be in Elkhart county? I'd love to hear Sheriff Rogers weigh in on Michigan cops trying to bully Indiana residents in his county!

 

[Tester]

You handled it as well as you could. It sucks that you didn't get more than a disinterested glorified secretary when you called. I hope you do contact ISP. I'd imagine they don't want MI LEO harassing IN citizens for no reason.

 

[AA&E]

Actually you can be .02 and carrying is implied consent to the breathalyzer. Failure ot comply and it is treated like a DUI failure ot comply and a six month suspension. Not sure what IN would do to you afte rthat.

PRasko, Nice work keeping your cool and verbal sparring. Guy was out of line regardless of who his employer is. Hopefully the plate toit he IN locals will be of use.

So a person walking with a concealed weapon that refuses a sobriety test loses his DRIVERS LICENSE for 6 months? While WALKING... what an asinine law.

 

[in625shooter]

They don't have jurisdiction. If he's impersonating in Indiana, there's nothing they can do.

I'm not sure how things work in Michigan, but I doubt there is any central repository of all law enforcement officers in the state. If he's not one of theirs, I doubt they call around to every PD, sheriff's office, etc. in the state and ask if he works there. Besides, if he's not a trooper and he's not in their jurisdiction, he isn't there problem and that's probably where it will end.

If you haven't, contact the locals. It's their jurisdiction and they are more likely to investigate it.

I think the OP should have called 911 at the time this happened. Even if the guy really is a cop in Michigan, what he did was wrong and way out of line at best. At worst, he could have been a serious threat. I doubt if anyone in Michigan gives a damn what this jackwagon did here in Indiana. I think the county sheriff and/or the ISP very much might care and they're the only ones who would do anything about it.

If law enforcement in Indiana have not yet been informed of this, they should be.

I skimmed the threads so if this was mentioned and I missed sorry, Behind Blue is right, if he isn't theirs (or maybe if he even is) they might not not put a lot of energy into addressing it however, you can always use either social media or even a news station, through the local PD. Between that being plastered on facebook and or a news station story along with his LPN he would be shamed out of any further incursion if he is in fact a legit LEO, if he is an impersonater well that will open a whole other can of worms for him. Not as a crap stiring method but it could serve as an educational tool for that other Officer that might e prone to be lets say overzealous when they have no reason to be.

 

[Fargo]

So a person walking with a concealed weapon that refuses a sobriety test loses his DRIVERS LICENSE for 6 months? While WALKING... what an asinine law.

No, it is your handgun license that may be suspended if you are convicted of a violation:

MSP - Carrying Under the Influence

 

[Cygnus]

You should make that stand for the collective and let us know how it plays out, I am quite interested also!

Sorry. I now live in MA. The law on alchohol and firearms is...murky. Murky enough for a lot of MASS style fifedom interpretations.......NOT volunteering.....

 

[Cygnus]

So a person walking with a concealed weapon that refuses a sobriety test loses his DRIVERS LICENSE for 6 months? While WALKING... what an asinine law.

No. They lose their CPL. Now I do thimnk that if you were CCing it would come into play unless you were neing a drunk idiot and encountered a police officer. Duty to inform would kick in and you would be screwed.....
Assinine? Certainly!

 

[AA&E]

No, it is your handgun license that may be suspended if you are convicted of a violation:

MSP - Carrying Under the Influence

OK, that makes sense I suppose. Surprised they would ever give it back honestly.

 

[mrortega]

I think the OP should have called 911 at the time this happened. Even if the guy really is a cop in Michigan, what he did was wrong and way out of line at best. At worst, he could have been a serious threat. I doubt if anyone in Michigan gives a damn what this jackwagon did here in Indiana. I think the county sheriff and/or the ISP very much might care and they're the only ones who would do anything about it.

If law enforcement in Indiana have not yet been informed of this, they should be.

With the possible exception that if there is a paper trail of this incident being reported AND this guy ever goes off the deep end and escalates an incident in the future where there is a real serious outcome someone might be able to point to the earlier report and show negligence in that the jerk was never disciplined.

 

[2A_Tom]

Good job OP.