Man points gun at cop's head, gets shot. Missouri

[BehindBlueI's]

Can you provide a source of link. I googled it and could only find the store video.

CCTV shows Antonio Martin appears to point gun at St Louis cop | Daily Mail Online

Scroll down to evidence photo #5.

 

[DRob]

Question: Not being familiar with the genre which is generally referred to as "rap", is there a difference between rap-in-general and "gangsta rap" or is it all gangsta?

Edit: Just thought of another related question. In order to appreciate rap, does one have to play it at a volume level which your car speakers cannot handle?

 

[mrortega]

CCTV shows Antonio Martin appears to point gun at St Louis cop | Daily Mail Online

Scroll down to evidence photo #5.

Wow! Thanks. That's about as clear as you can get. There are so many ways that picture can be added to: 1) the "Yute" didn't intend to shoot since the safety was on; 2) Add to the arguments on INGO about not having an external safety because you may forget to disengage it, as when you're planning to "Off a pig." Just wow. I'd also like to see the store video after some agency like the FBI professionally enhances it. Thanks for the link, bro.

 

[mrjarrell]

Question: Not being familiar with the genre which is generally referred to as "rap", is there a difference between rap-in-general and "gangsta rap" or is it all gangsta?

Edit: Just thought of another related question. In order to appreciate rap, does one have to play it at a volume level which your car speakers cannot handle?

"Rap" is a sub genre and style belonging to hip hop.
Hip hop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I'd also like to see the store video after some agency like the FBI professionally enhances it. Thanks for the link, bro.

That's Hollywood. Blurry video is just blurry. You can't make it contain more pixels or better resolution, as that data isn't present to bring out. Best you can do is adjust lightness, contrast, etc.

More info: Stop Believing TV?s Lies: The Real Truth About "Enhancing" Images

 

[churchmouse]

Ya think he thought he could just walk away after shooting a cop? Again, complete failure of the logic system. Another person obviously not receiving complete control wiring before birth. Or mom was standing up when she delivered him. That would explain a lot.

I really believe that some of these young people truly believe they are in control of the life. That they can do as they want and the entire culture will get behind them. With all of the wrong doing going on as in riots/robbing/thugs turning on LEO and the "Group" is coming out in force to back them up it is emboldening them. They want the fame and the cred. That is all that makes any sense of these actions.

Well, this and the fact they were dropped on their heads for sport as baby's.....................

 

[2A_Tom]

I think you all are putting the cart before the horse. The music isn't the cause. It is the reflection.

That, I can agree with.

It's not rap's fault. It's the culture that the rap artists cater to that's the problem.

There is an Evangelical song, "It only takes a spark to get a fire going, then all those around can warm up to its glowing."

There is a spark, a smoldering and a fire of racial hatred burning and it is being stoked by the sitting regime, the media, the race baiters, the gangstas, rap, video games and Holywood.

I agree that those influences will not have an affect on me, my family or yours. There are however many at risk to all of these influences. For many there is a hopelessnes for the future. There is no thing to live for so take what you can.

Be very thankful for parents, teachers, pastors and others who pointed you in the right direction.

To say music has no affect is to say no outside influence has any affect. Music is no different than peer groups and parents. Just different ways of presenting ideas to an individual. The difference comes in how the individual processes those ideas and fits them into his personal belief system. I could listen to the most vulgar stuff imaginable, but if I have an utter disdain for it it isn't going to change me.

We're born a blank slate. We grow to be the sum of our influences. The responsibility of the parent isn't to be the sole influence, but rather to set the groundwork for how other influences are processed. My parents taught me not to drink, and it stuck. I can be around people drinking and not be tempted because previous influence has dissuaded me. If my parents had told me underage drinking was all right then it would be a different story. I know people who have grown up like this.

The problem isn't "gangsta rap" in and of itself. A well-rounded individual could listen to nothing but that stuff and still have a healthy respect for the police if his other influences encouraged it. The problem is that people such as Antonio Martin have been told by not only music, but by their parents, their peers, and their role models not to have respect for the police. That influence took root because it was the prevailing influence. There was nothing there to teach him better.

In the end though, we can't point fingers. The final decision was his and his alone. We are each responsible for our own actions.

My college president said "You are or are becoming the people you associate with, the music you listen to and the books you read."

 

[BogWalker]

"Rap" is a sub genre and style belonging to hip hop.
Hip hop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, and "gangsta rap" is a further subset of rap. It's really quite the varied genre. I know a fellow who listens to a lot of Christian rap. Not all rap promotes thuggery, just a certain portion of it.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

I grew up listening to country music, western swing and cowboy country. Nothing but a steady diet of shooting cheating women, their beaus, lawmen and outlaws. Later I got into rap music, starting with the LA Dream Team and Kurtis Blow and moving on to NWA and the gangsta rap when it came along.

To this day I have not shot a man in reno just to watch him die, nor have I ever smoked a fool on Crenshaw cause he was frontin.

I had a good, stable home life with a family who set a good example and taught their values by living them.

I feel for the officer and hope he gets through this. I hope he can accept that he did the right thing and he can make peace with it.

 

[churchmouse]

I grew up listening to country music, western swing and cowboy country. Nothing but a steady diet of shooting cheating women, their beaus, lawmen and outlaws. Later I got into rap music, starting with the LA Dream Team and Kurtis Blow and moving on to NWA and the gangsta rap when it came along.

To this day I have not shot a man in reno just to watch him die, nor have I ever smoked a fool on Crenshaw cause he was frontin.

I had a good, stable home life with a family who set a good example and taught their values by living them.

I feel for the officer and hope he gets through this. I hope he can accept that he did the right thing and he can make peace with it.

Family. Solid foundations and moral/honor codes.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Family. Solid foundations and moral/honor codes.

Amen, Church

 

[Doug]

Some will riot and loot for any reason at all.
Those who can avoid the areas where that happens do so for their own safety.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Some will riot and loot for any reason at all.
Those who can avoid the areas where that happens do so for their own safety.

THIS!

Look at this list. These riots aren't unique to any group. They range from sports, music, to local issues, to global issues. People looking for trouble, will make their own.

List of incidents of civil unrest in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mrortega]

I read a news report a couple hours ago that some "protesters" had spilled onto I70, shutting it down briefly. I'd hate to be caught in a jam like that. Nobody in their right mind would run over someone in the road unless cars were being stopped and windows broken and fire bombs thrown around.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Some will riot and loot for any reason at all.
Those who can avoid the areas where that happens do so for their own safety.

Soccer.

 

[JettaKnight]

I tried to search through this thread and didn't find it...

Did anyone else hear a police spokesman say, "...Hi-point loaded with five rounds in the chamber and one in the magazine"?

 

[gvbcraig]

I know there is another image out there, but it was Photoshopped.
This one is on Facebook, I just hope and pray that this is a parody, if not, god help us.

 

[7urtle]

Question:
Edit: Just thought of another related question. In order to appreciate rap, does one have to play it at a volume level which your car speakers cannot handle?

same reason metal /rock is played loud

 

[mrortega]

Fox news had something an hour ago saying that this is the 3rd straight night of protests against the shooting of Hi-Point Man. Where the Hell are the local "Leaders" who should be out there stressing that the perp pointed a gun at the cop and there is nothing else to say? What is so hard about that?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I tried to search through this thread and didn't find it...

Did anyone else hear a police spokesman say, "...Hi-point loaded with five rounds in the chamber and one in the magazine"?

Yes, it was a spoonerism.