M&P vs. PPQ vs. XDm vs. SP2022/226

[dahayes]

xdm 9mm

I've really enjoyed mine great gun with great features !

 

[SSGSAD]

I don't like Double-action/single-action guns unless all my guns were that way. it is hard to become proficient with some trigger types and moving back and forth from a DA/SA gun can give you fits because of that difference in trigger pull weight.
To each, his or her own..... I am 56 Years old, and have Several Different handguns, S/A, D/A, Revolver, Semi auto... I shoot all very well. I am NO expert, but with MY handguns, some I have owned for MORE than 30 years, I can take ANY, or all to a range, and load them up, and pick one up, and shoot, and then repeat the process, with all that I have with me, and shoot, very well, and consistent..... I guess it is what you LIKE, or get used to ..... JMHE...

 

[netsecurity]

Maybe if you buy the M&P and PPQ used and the 226 from Don's NIB.

I don't understand why you disagree with me, except because maybe you like Sigs? When I lookup a new P226 I see they are around $900. Is this wrong? M&P is $400 and PPQ is $500, which equals exactly $900.

 

[DustyDawg48]

I don't like Double-action/single-action guns unless all my guns were that way. it is hard to become proficient with some trigger types and moving back and forth from a DA/SA gun can give you fits because of that difference in trigger pull weight.
To each, his or her own..... I am 56 Years old, and have Several Different handguns, S/A, D/A, Revolver, Semi auto... I shoot all very well. I am NO expert, but with MY handguns, some I have owned for MORE than 30 years, I can take ANY, or all to a range, and load them up, and pick one up, and shoot, and then repeat the process, with all that I have with me, and shoot, very well, and consistent..... I guess it is what you LIKE, or get used to ..... JMHE...

I was speaking as much from a stand point of competition and other forms of dynamic shooting as anything. Very few shooters can can switch between action types and be as equally proficient when you are looking at coupling accuracy with speed when on the clock. I could move between Glocks, my 1911, and other guns with little problem since each pull of that gun's trigger was the same each time. Bit moving from a Glock to my CZ with the DA/SA trigger forced me to make a decision and it was to standardize my carry and competition guns so there would be as little variant as possible. Some don't ever seek to shoot in those dynamic environments and have a much more varied collection, which I hope to one day have. That is the only downside to standardizing is everything does kind of have that sameness about it, for good or I'll I suppose!

 

[SSGSAD]

OK, I was just thinking "general" not specific ..... My apology...

 

[DustyDawg48]

OK, I was just thinking "general" not specific ..... My apology...

lol no worries! Much is lost in the world of texting and typing. I may have not been entirely clear either on that point myself. it has been known to happen from time to time!

 

[GBuck]

I don't understand why you disagree with me, except because maybe you like Sigs? When I lookup a new P226 I see they are around $900. Is this wrong? M&P is $400 and PPQ is $500, which equals exactly $900.

So you're taking THE MOST expensive price you can find on a sig and then the LOWEST internet price you can find on the other two? I'm not saying that Sigs are cheap... but you can have them for a lot less than $900.

I've NEVER seen an M&P for $400 NIB except from Palmetto, and even then you have to pay shipping and transfer. Same goes for your price on the PPQ.

 

[tdoom15]

You can regularly find MP9 for 415-425 (which boggles the hell out of my mind why some people list their used MP9's for $450-500 on the market place). PPQ under 500 shipped.

Here are my thoughts if this is strictly your CC weapon.

g19 - Best option in terms of size. Buy a pre 2010 gen 3 to avoid any recent production issues. Everyone should own one at some point anyhow. Lots of aftermarket support and it does many things well...true jack of all trades.

PPQ - Outstanding quality, ergos, accuracy and trigger. Finding holsters aren't an issue, but sights are scarce at the moment, although stock NS aren't too terrible. This is the best option if you're wanting a brand new gun IMO.
Angled slide also makes the PPQ feel a little slimmer than it when carrying, however I still can not conceal it to my satisfaction.

MP9 - Be prepared to spend some extra money. Stock trigger doesn't cut it for me and if you are a skilled enough shooter to shoot beyond 25yds and get a gun that has lock up issues, it will be frustrating and another $150 for a fitted barrel.

That being said, the above 3 are really equal once you get them running how you like.

XD - They shoot well but the grip safety is a deal breaker for me.

2022 - Why? If you can afford any of the above, there's no reason to have it on the list. It's a reliable weapon, but it is mediocre in all catagories.

229 - Heavy, recent sig QC, expensive. If you want to spend that much money on something, buy HK.

ETA: I'd really encourage you to look at options like the PPS, mp9c, or shield + a spare mag...they are much more pleasant to conceal.

 

[LP1]

I have XDsc, G17, and Sig. All good guns, but if I had to pick one, it would be the Springfield. Backstrap safety, lighter than Sig, no need to pull trigger to disassemble (like the Glock).

 

[WestSider]

Get a M&P Shield and be done with it.

 

[Sureshot129]

I'll admit I didn't read all the pages of this thread so I apologize if it has already been said a Sig 229 is the same size as a Glock 19 so if that is the size you want go with that.

 

[netsecurity]

The PPQ is becoming my favorite now that I'm starting to OC. It is extremely well engineered, and fully ambidextrous.

 

[Colonel Air]

The PPQ. Best feeling trigger, period.

 

[Kagnew]

While I think not buying the G19 because it's "jumping on the bandwagon" is the worst logic I have ever heard, of your remaining choices I would recommend the Sig SP2022 to everyone I have ever met.

I'd vote for the 2022.

 

[tdoom15]

The PPQ is becoming my favorite now that I'm starting to OC. It is extremely well engineered, and fully ambidextrous.

I don't OC, but i can also say the ppq is definitely becoming my favorite weapon. Grant from g&r is trying to convince ameriglo to make a run of the idots, which IMO is the only down side to the ppq right now. I will be jumping all over those when they come out.

 

[WestSider]

I don't OC, but i can also say the ppq is definitely becoming my favorite weapon. Grant from g&r is trying to convince ameriglo to make a run of the idots, which IMO is the only down side to the ppq right now. I will be jumping all over those when they come out.

That would be nice! I have IDOT Pro's on my G19 and love them.

 

[Hop]

My Safariland holster has put some dings in the front sight of my PPQ. I'll be all over a new set of sights. Night sights preferred.

 

[Pyriel]

This thread could really use a poll

 

[dtkw]

Any good recommendations on a SA ONLY defensive handgun?

SA only? How about the Browning Hi Power 9mm? It has 13 rounds magazines and you could up to 15 rounds with after market magazines. It fits in most hands very comfy.

 

[PKendall317]

SA only? How about the Browning Hi Power 9mm? It has 13 rounds magazines and you could up to 15 rounds with after market magazines. It fits in most hands very comfy.

I was actually at Bradis yesterday and handled one of those. It could've felt better in my hands, but it was still a nice pistol. I might pick it up simply as a range toy.