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  • Kirk Freeman

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    Nah, they won't let me in any of the gas station convenience stores in Crawfordsville since the incident.

    "The incident"? The time you sprinted out of the Taco Bell covered in lime jello with a bag of soft taco screaming about how "the FBI knows I am not a homosexual", or the other thing?
     

    rhino

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    "The incident"? The time you sprinted out of the Taco Bell covered in lime jello with a bag of soft taco screaming about how "the FBI knows I am not a homosexual", or the other thing?

    I believe the exact quote was, "The FBI knows I am no longer a homosexual."

    And it was you doing the screaming.

    I had the camera.
     

    eric001

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    Yet another example of someone with panties all twisted up beyond recognition about cops "getting" to take their duty cars home--when they have to pay for the privilege of doing so.

    Aside from being ignorant in the extreme about how much that practice does or doesn't "waste" taxpayer money on "perks" for the officers, has anyone noticed how little cops are typically paid?

    I'm personally much crankier about so much of my tax money going to public indoctrination, er, I mean education. I would MUCH rather have more of it go to getting more and better paid cops, with more and better perks. I don't have any kids, but DO have a residence and loved ones that I'd like to see protected when I can't physically be there to do it myself.

    Then, as a finishing touch, I'll bring up the old question of the 3 most under-appreciated and usually under-funded careers in America: teachers, firemen and police...
    You know, just the folks responsible for the future of your children and the protection of your residence, livelihood and life. Obviously, THESE folks shouldn't have any perks!!!
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Originally Posted by Frank_N_Stein
    We get free drinks at Speedway.

    Well, rhino and I USED to get free drinks at Speedway . . . until the OTHER incident . . . with the midget, the unforeseen storage room accident, the three county police chase, the stolen handcuffs, the federal task force and the Morgan County MRAP.
     

    eric001

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    That is an old question. Is it still really the case?

    Welp, I did a little looking, mostly on payscale.com, though I found firefighter salaries on bls.gov and police salaries on salary.com... It was by no means an exhaustive search for the most accurate numbers.

    Estimated median salaries:

    police officer: $52,374
    firefighter: $45,600
    teacher (high school): $46,505

    warehouse manager: $47,791
    secretary: $29,850
    registered dental hygenist: $68,500
    legal assistant: $40,379
    insurance agent: $36,065
    IT specialist: $51,828
    heavy equipment operator: $48,000
    electrician: $54,850
    computer technician: $37,300
    auto service tech/mechanic: $40,000
    administrative assistant: $35,000
    mechanical engineer: $64,853
    FBI agent: $63,885

    Again, I'm not betting my life on the absolute accuracy of any of those numbers. They look reasonable to me, so I'll go with them.
    Compared to the others I snagged out of that truly huge list of career salaries, it looks to me like by the numbers the wages of teachers, police and firefighters are comparable.

    On the other hand, based on the inherent responsibilities within those three fields, I would say those numbers by far do NOT tell the whole story. As a former teacher, I once figured out that if I figured my salary into an hourly scale for actual "on the clock" time, my pay only came up to ~$10-11 per hour...2010 dollars. Granted, it was a private school...so call it $15/hr equivalent in public schools. Frankly, that pay sucks whale turds for the actual responsibilities of the job. I made the same $10/hr working part time in irrigation with NO headaches or overly burdensome responsibilities.

    It griped me at the time that my dental hygenist was making way more than I did as a teacher. Let's hypothetically compare getting your teeth cleaned well to getting a good education as the foundation upon which to build your future. Yeah, I can see where one is WAY more important than the other. :xmad: Let's not even consider the amount of training, talent, and dedication it takes to successfully perform each set of job requirements.

    I have never worked as a cop or firefighter. Don't want to, either. I'm pretty darned sure that if you figure in the responsibility factor, the inherent stresses of the job, et cetera, that their working wage is way less than it should be as well. It may be enough to live on, but I personally just don't see it as enough to be "what the job deserves" as compensation.

    So, did I answer the age old question's accuracy?? I guess it depends on how you figure it.
     
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